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From:	Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To:	pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject:	Looking for information on our elephant
Date:	2013-09-19 23:16:11
Message-ID:	20130920.081611.375727915187000718.t-ishii@sraoss.co.jp
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Hi,

I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
chose elephant as our mascot.

According to:
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Logo

The discussion was back to 1997 on the hackers list. Unfortunately the
official archive for 1997 was lost. Mine seems to be gone too. Any
information will be appreciated.
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp

From:	Oleg Bartunov <obartunov(at)gmail(dot)com>
To:	Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc:	Pgsql Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	Re: Looking for information on our elephant
Date:	2013-09-19 23:57:30
Message-ID:	CAF4Au4yuCy-JXXy7uAA7iOKz0vRYkPFiprae540vGrMnXcUC6A@mail.gmail.com
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Tatsuo,

I have emails even from 1995 ! You can see that historical message here:
http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/msg.html?mid=1238939

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
*Author:* yang( at )sjuphil( dot )sju( dot )edu
*Date:* 1997-04-03 20:36:33
*Subject:*<http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/index.html?word=Re%3A%20%5BHACKERS%5D%20PostgreSQL%20logo.>Re:
[HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.

Some other ideas:

derivative: a sword (derivative of the Dragon book cover -- Postgres as a tool)
illustrative: a bowl of Alphabet Soup, with letters spelling out POSTGRESQL
obscure: a revolver/hit man (Grosse Pt is an anagram of Postgres, and an
abbreviation of the title of the new John Cusack movie)

but if you want an animal-based logo, how about some sort of elephant?
After all, as the Agatha Christie title read, elephants can remember ...

David Yangyang(at)sju(dot)edu

Oleg

On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
> chose elephant as our mascot.
>
> According to:
> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Logo
>
> The discussion was back to 1997 on the hackers list. Unfortunately the
> official archive for 1997 was lost. Mine seems to be gone too. Any
> information will be appreciated.
> --
> Tatsuo Ishii
> SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
> English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
> Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp
>
>
> --
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> To make changes to your subscription:
> http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
>

From:	Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To:	obartunov(at)gmail(dot)com
Cc:	pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject:	Re: Looking for information on our elephant
Date:	2013-09-20 00:00:33
Message-ID:	20130920.090033.1776661716621930395.t-ishii@sraoss.co.jp
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Oh great! Thank you Oleg!
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp

> Tatsuo,
>
> I have emails even from 1995 ! You can see that historical message here:
> http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/msg.html?mid=1238939
>
> Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
> *Author:* yang( at )sjuphil( dot )sju( dot )edu
> *Date:* 1997-04-03 20:36:33
> *Subject:*<http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/index.html?word=Re%3A%20%5BHACKERS%5D%20PostgreSQL%20logo.>Re:
> [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
>
> Some other ideas:
>
> derivative: a sword (derivative of the Dragon book cover -- Postgres as a tool)
> illustrative: a bowl of Alphabet Soup, with letters spelling out POSTGRESQL
> obscure: a revolver/hit man (Grosse Pt is an anagram of Postgres, and an
> abbreviation of the title of the new John Cusack movie)
>
> but if you want an animal-based logo, how about some sort of elephant?
> After all, as the Agatha Christie title read, elephants can remember ...
>
> David Yangyang(at)sju(dot)edu
>
>
>
> Oleg
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
>> chose elephant as our mascot.
>>
>> According to:
>> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Logo
>>
>> The discussion was back to 1997 on the hackers list. Unfortunately the
>> official archive for 1997 was lost. Mine seems to be gone too. Any
>> information will be appreciated.
>> --
>> Tatsuo Ishii
>> SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
>> English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
>> Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org)
>> To make changes to your subscription:
>> http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
>>

From:	Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To:	pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject:	Re: Looking for information on our elephant
Date:	2013-09-20 16:36:35
Message-ID:	523C7993.7010603@agliodbs.com
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On 09/19/2013 04:16 PM, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
> chose elephant as our mascot.

What I've been told:

Our first logo was one Jan designed, which was a elephant in a diamond.
While the idea was nice, it looked terrible, so when Marc and Greg
launched PostreSQL Inc. they hired an actual desinger who created the
blue elephant we have now. This design was then contributed to the
community.

--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com

From:	Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To:	obartunov(at)gmail(dot)com
Cc:	pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject:	Re: Looking for information on our elephant
Date:	2013-09-22 07:18:59
Message-ID:	20130922.161859.1476851031440499809.t-ishii@sraoss.co.jp
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Oleg,

Unfortunately the archives seem to miss attached files. I love to see
the attached files because they are logo images. Any idea?
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp

From:	Oleg Bartunov <obartunov(at)gmail(dot)com>
To:	Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc:	Pgsql Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	Re: Looking for information on our elephant
Date:	2013-09-22 20:40:06
Message-ID:	CAF4Au4w-R6npenkRkdLc_qBzoCtcVmca6f6u-QJ2aPUsBg9Lgw@mail.gmail.com
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I found in my archives several logos. The oldest one comes from postgres95
time. I recall that logo with cheetah was made by Bruce (?)

On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org> wrote:

> Oleg,
>
> Unfortunately the archives seem to miss attached files. I love to see
> the attached files because they are logo images. Any idea?
> --
> Tatsuo Ishii
> SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
> English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
> Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp
>
> > Tatsuo,
> >
> > I have emails even from 1995 ! You can see that historical message
> here:
> > http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/msg.html?mid=1238939
> >
> > Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
> > *Author:* yang( at )sjuphil( dot )sju( dot )edu
> > *Date:* 1997-04-03 20:36:33
> > *Subject:*<
> http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/index.html?word=Re%3A%20%5BHACKERS%5D%20PostgreSQL%20logo
> .>Re:
> > [HACKERS] PostgreSQL logo.
> >
> > Some other ideas:
> >
> > derivative: a sword (derivative of the Dragon book cover -- Postgres as
> a tool)
> > illustrative: a bowl of Alphabet Soup, with letters spelling out
> POSTGRESQL
> > obscure: a revolver/hit man (Grosse Pt is an anagram of Postgres, and an
> > abbreviation of the title of the new John Cusack movie)
> >
> > but if you want an animal-based logo, how about some sort of elephant?
> > After all, as the Agatha Christie title read, elephants can remember ...
> >
> > David Yangyang(at)sju(dot)edu
> >
> >
> >
> > Oleg
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm Looking for information on our elephant: especially how/why we
> >> chose elephant as our mascot.
> >>
> >> According to:
> >> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Logo
> >>
> >> The discussion was back to 1997 on the hackers list. Unfortunately the
> >> official archive for 1997 was lost. Mine seems to be gone too. Any
> >> information will be appreciated.
> >> --
> >> Tatsuo Ishii
> >> SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
> >> English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
> >> Japanese: http://www.sraoss.co.jp
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org)
> >> To make changes to your subscription:
> >> http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
> >>
>

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From:	Oleg Bartunov <obartunov(at)gmail(dot)com>
To:	Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc:	Pgsql Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	Re: Looking for information on our elephant
Date:	2013-09-22 20:41:45
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Tatsuo,

you could ask Marc about archives. Probably he has original mbox files.

Oleg

On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org> wrote:

From:	Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To:	Oleg Bartunov <obartunov(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc:	Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Pgsql Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	Re: Looking for information on our elephant
Date:	2013-10-02 13:29:28
Message-ID:	20131002132928.GC21547@momjian.us
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On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:40:06AM +0400, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> I found in my archives several logos. The oldest one comes from postgres95
> time. I recall that logo with cheetah was made by Bruce (?)

No, I don't remember who did that cheetah.

--
Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

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