Re: integrate pg_upgrade analyze_new_cluster.sh into vacuumdb

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: integrate pg_upgrade analyze_new_cluster.sh into vacuumdb
Date: 2014-04-14 01:15:42
Message-ID: CA+TgmobKndMqatAaO4Jq0vJyt9EuzsuBPVeBh1BK_iFWEFcJuQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> writes:
>> ISTM that this is the way ANALYZE should work when run on a table that
>> has never been analysed before. Let's just do this logic within
>> ANALYZE and be done.
>
> Can't. Not unless you intend to make ANALYZE do internal commits
> so that its output rows become visible to other transactions before
> its done. (Which would be, shall we say, a damn bad idea.)
>
> Even without that implementation problem, I absolutely don't agree
> that this is such a great thing that it should become not only the
> default but the only obtainable behavior. It would slow down
> ANALYZE, and would only be helpful if there is concurrent activity
> that would benefit from the stats. There are plenty of scenarios
> where that would be giving up something to get nothing.

Agreed. I suspect that's also true of the pg_upgrade behavior. Sure,
there may be people for who the database will be immediately usable
with a stats target of 1 or 10, but I bet there are also quite a few
for whom it isn't, or who just wait for the whole thing to be done
anyway before they fire the system up.

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Robert Haas
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The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

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