From: | Gregory Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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To: | "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | "Mark Mielke" <mark(at)mark(dot)mielke(dot)cc>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, "Alvaro Herrera" <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, "Magnus Hagander" <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, "Dimitri Fontaine" <dfontaine(at)hi-media(dot)com>, <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "Peter Eisentraut" <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, "Josh Berkus" <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, "Brendan Jurd" <direvus(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Dave Page" <dpage(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: PostgreSQL 8.4 development plan |
Date: | 2008-02-07 21:03:34 |
Message-ID: | 87tzkkmqc9.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com |
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"Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> Mark Mielke <mark(at)mark(dot)mielke(dot)cc> writes:
>> In terms of picking an SCM candidate, I don't think "time to install
>> from source" is a legitimate concern. Installing from source is great,
>> but if the package needs to be installed from source, it is not well
>> enough supported by the community to be worth using.
>
> That is 100.0% wrong. Some people want to install from source, and
> some don't have any choice because they are on platforms where there's
> not a prebuilt binary available. I am *not* willing to say that we
> will blow off developers on any platform that some other project is
> choosing not to provide binaries for.
I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. I've never heard any
complaints about building svn from source before for *developers*. I think
that's just as easy as anything else.
What I have heard in the distance past is that it was difficult to set up a
server. That isn't something developers would have to do. And in any case I
understood that to be mostly about how it used to depend on a web server which
is no longer true anyways.
> As a fairly well related example, note how CVSup never became the de
> facto standard, because it wasn't portable enough, or at least had made
> the wrong decisions about what to depend on.
This is all predicated on a bit of ridiculous FUD. Apply the logic in reverse
and it should be obvious. Subversion is a mature package being used by
thousands of open source projects. At this point I would hazard it's more
widely used than CVS amongst open source projects. Therefore it *doesn't* have
any poor choices of dependencies.
For what it's worth I think GIT is a better fit for our needs.
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Gregory Stark
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