Re: jsonb format is pessimal for toast compression

From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, Claudio Freire <klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com>, "David E(dot) Wheeler" <david(at)justatheory(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Jan Wieck <jan(at)wi3ck(dot)info>
Subject: Re: jsonb format is pessimal for toast compression
Date: 2014-09-25 17:25:24
Message-ID: 54245004.10606@agliodbs.com
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On 09/25/2014 10:20 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2014-09-25 10:18:24 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> On 09/25/2014 10:14 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 06:01:08PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
>>>> But independent of which version is chosen, we *REALLY* need to make the
>>>> decision soon. This issue has held up the next beta (like jsonb has
>>>> blocked previous beta) for *weeks*.
>>>>
>>>> Personally it doesn't make me very happy that Heikki and Tom had to be
>>>> the people stepping up to fix this.
>>>
>>> I think there are a few reasons this has been delayed, aside from the
>>> scheduling ones:
>>>
>>> 1. compression issues were a surprise, and we are wondering if
>>> there are any other surprises
>>> 2. pg_upgrade makes future data format changes problematic
>>> 3. 9.3 multi-xact bugs spooked us into being more careful
>>>
>>> I am not sure what we can do to increase our speed based on these items.
>>
>> Alternately, this is delayed because:
>>
>> 1. We have one tested patch to fix the issue.
>>
>> 2. However, people are convinced that there's a better patch possible.
>>
>> 3. But nobody is working on this better patch except "in their spare time".
>>
>> Given this, I once again vote for releasing based on Tom's lengths-only
>> patch, which is done, tested, and ready to go.
>
> Heikki's patch is there and polished.

If Heikki says it's ready, I'll test. So far he's said that it wasn't
done yet.

--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com

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