From: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Florian Pflug <fgp(at)phlo(dot)org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, PG Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Boolean operators without commutators vs. ALL/ANY |
Date: | 2011-06-17 01:42:43 |
Message-ID: | 1308274284-sup-6485@alvh.no-ip.org |
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Excerpts from Tom Lane's message of jue jun 16 17:33:17 -0400 2011:
> Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> writes:
> > I don't really agree that visual correlation needs to trump everything.
> > If say
> > foo =~ bar
> > and
> > foo ~= bar
> > were to produce completely different results, this would introduce bugs
> > all over the place.
>
> Huh? That's about like arguing that standard mathematical notation is
> broken because a < b and a > b don't produce the same result.
The difference is that the mnemonic for > and < is very simple and in
widespread knowledge; not something I would say for =~'s rule of "the ~
is on the side of the regexp". I know I used to get it wrong in Perl
(i.e. I wrote ~= occasionally).
To make matters worse, our delimiters for regexes are the same as for
strings, the single quote. So you get
foo =~ 'bar' /* foo is the text column, bar is the regex */
'bar' =~ foo /* no complaint but it's wrong */
'bar' ~= foo /* okay */
'foo' ~= bar /* no complaint but it's wrong */
How do I tell which is the regex here? If we used, say, /, that would
be a different matter:
foo =~ /bar/
/bar/ ~= foo /* both okay */
If we had that and you get it wrong, the parser would immediately barf
at you if you got it wrong:
/bar/ =~ foo /* wrong: LHS wanted text, got regex */
foo ~= /bar/ /* wrong: LHS wanted regex, got text */
(Note: I'm not suggesting we use / as delimiter. This is just an
example.)
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