Re: Missing archive entry

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From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Missing archive entry
Date: 2004-12-23 12:44:24
Message-ID: 200412231244.iBNCiOl25495@candle.pha.pa.us
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I did a search for pgbench and Google found the article I was looking
for:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/pgsql.performance/browse_frm/thread/eafbb7cc58a4afcc/aafb8805c8d13232?q=postgresql+pgbench+lane&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3Dpostgresql+pgbench+lane%26start%3D0%26scoring%3Dd%26hl%3Den%26num%3D30%26c2coff%3D1%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#aafb8805c8d13232

but our own archives search did not:

http://search.postgresql.org/archives.search?cs=utf-8&fm=on&st=20&dt=back&q=pg_bench+&ul=&dp=0&o=0&ps=10&s=date

I did a search for 'pgbench'. Do we not archive entries from December
20?

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From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Missing archive entry
Date: 2004-12-23 12:55:13
Message-ID: 200412231255.iBNCtD126365@candle.pha.pa.us
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Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I did a search for pgbench and Google found the article I was looking
> for:
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/pgsql.performance/browse_frm/thread/eafbb7cc58a4afcc/aafb8805c8d13232?q=postgresql+pgbench+lane&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3Dpostgresql+pgbench+lane%26start%3D0%26scoring%3Dd%26hl%3Den%26num%3D30%26c2coff%3D1%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#aafb8805c8d13232
>
> but our own archives search did not:
>
> http://search.postgresql.org/archives.search?cs=utf-8&fm=on&st=20&dt=back&q=pg_bench+&ul=&dp=0&o=0&ps=10&s=date
>
> I did a search for 'pgbench'. Do we not archive entries from December
> 20?

FYI, here is the actual entry in our archives that search didn't find:

http://search.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2004-12/msg00256.php

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From: Oleg Bartunov <oleg(at)sai(dot)msu(dot)su>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Missing archive entry
Date: 2004-12-23 13:41:27
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Bruce,

it's because search engine based on inverted indices doesn't
suited for online updating, even if indices are kept in PG.

This is what we try to overcome in pgsql.ru - all messages are indexed online.
Try
http://www.pgsql.ru/db/mw/index.html?section=-1&word=pgbench&action=Search&sdb_d=23&sdb_m=11&sdb_y=2004&sde_d=23&sde_m=12&sde_y=2004&weight=0&format=0&order=1

Oleg

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> I did a search for pgbench and Google found the article I was looking
> for:
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/pgsql.performance/browse_frm/thread/eafbb7cc58a4afcc/aafb8805c8d13232?q=postgresql+pgbench+lane&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3Dpostgresql+pgbench+lane%26start%3D0%26scoring%3Dd%26hl%3Den%26num%3D30%26c2coff%3D1%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#aafb8805c8d13232
>
> but our own archives search did not:
>
> http://search.postgresql.org/archives.search?cs=utf-8&fm=on&st=20&dt=back&q=pg_bench+&ul=&dp=0&o=0&ps=10&s=date
>
> I did a search for 'pgbench'. Do we not archive entries from December
> 20?
>
>

Regards,
Oleg
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From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Missing archive entry
Date: 2004-12-23 15:42:57
Message-ID: 28763.1103816577@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> I did a search for pgbench and Google found the article I was looking
> for:
> but our own archives search did not:

> http://search.postgresql.org/archives.search?cs=utf-8&fm=on&st=20&dt=back&q=pg_bench+&ul=&dp=0&o=0&ps=10&s=date

Possibly if you searched for "pgbench" you would find it. The URL shows
that you searched for "pg_bench".

(It's also possible that the search indexer is running a little behind.)

regards, tom lane


From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Missing archive entry
Date: 2004-12-23 15:45:25
Message-ID: 200412231545.iBNFjQb06167@candle.pha.pa.us
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> > I did a search for pgbench and Google found the article I was looking
> > for:
> > but our own archives search did not:
>
> > http://search.postgresql.org/archives.search?cs=utf-8&fm=on&st=20&dt=back&q=pg_bench+&ul=&dp=0&o=0&ps=10&s=date
>
> Possibly if you searched for "pgbench" you would find it. The URL shows
> that you searched for "pg_bench".

I checked that. Both pgbench and pg_bench are in the article, and I
tried both. What bothers me is that 90% of the time I look for
something the archiver doesn't have it but google does. Why do I bother
trying the archiver except to find it isn't working and get upset?

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From: John Hansen <john(at)geeknet(dot)com(dot)au>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Missing archive entry
Date: 2004-12-24 20:35:50
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On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 23:44, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I did a search for pgbench and Google found the article I was looking
> for:
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/pgsql.performance/browse_frm/thread/eafbb7cc58a4afcc/aafb8805c8d13232?q=postgresql+pgbench+lane&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3Dpostgresql+pgbench+lane%26start%3D0%26scoring%3Dd%26hl%3Den%26num%3D30%26c2coff%3D1%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#aafb8805c8d13232
>
> but our own archives search did not:
>
> http://search.postgresql.org/archives.search?cs=utf-8&fm=on&st=20&dt=back&q=pg_bench+&ul=&dp=0&o=0&ps=10&s=date

Fixed....

> I did a search for 'pgbench'. Do we not archive entries from December
> 20?

... John