Re: erroneous restore into pg_catalog schema

From: Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)fr>
To: Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Marko Kreen <markokr(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Erik Rijkers <er(at)xs4all(dot)nl>, "pgsql-hackers\(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Kohei KaiGai <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>
Subject: Re: erroneous restore into pg_catalog schema
Date: 2013-06-10 13:35:27
Message-ID: m2k3m2ay1s.fsf@2ndQuadrant.fr
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Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu> writes:
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> wrote:
>> For my part, I'd still prefer to have those go into a different schema
>> than into pg_catalog. Perhaps that's overkill but I really do like the
>> seperation of system tables from extensions which can be added and
>> removed..
>
> This was discussed previously. It's a bad idea. It's very tempting but
> it doesn't scale. Then every user needs to know every schema for every
> extension they might want to use.

+1

Your description of how bad this idea is is the best I've read I think:

> It's exactly equivalent to the very common pattern of sysadmins
> installing things into /usr/local/apache, /usr/local/kde,
> /usr/local/gnome, /usr/local/pgsql, etc. Then every user needs a
> mile-long PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, JAVACLASSPATH, etc. And every user
> has a slightly different ordering and slightly different subset of
> directories in their paths resulting in different behaviours and
> errors for each user. A correctly integrated package will use standard
> locations and then users can simply refer to the standard locations
> and find what's been installed. It would be ok to have a schema for
> all extensions separately from the core, but it can't be a schema for
> each extension or else we might as well not have the extension
> mechanism at all. Users would still need to "install" the extension by
> editing their config to refer to it.

Regards,
--
Dimitri Fontaine
http://2ndQuadrant.fr PostgreSQL : Expertise, Formation et Support

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