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From: | Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net> |
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Subject: | firebird getting some press |
Date: | 2004-02-06 15:10:41 |
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http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1477647,00.asp
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7010&mode=thread&order=0
Robert Treat
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From: | Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> |
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To: | Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: firebird getting some press |
Date: | 2004-02-06 16:41:32 |
Message-ID: | 200402060841.32274.josh@agliodbs.com |
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People,
Anybody have tthe e-mail for a Firebird developer, so that we can remind them
about OSCON? I'd like to see them there ....
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-Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco
From: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl> |
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To: | Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> |
Cc: | Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: firebird getting some press |
Date: | 2004-02-06 17:09:05 |
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On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 08:41:32AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Anybody have tthe e-mail for a Firebird developer, so that we can remind them
> about OSCON? I'd like to see them there ....
Ann Harrison posted from
Ann Harrison <aharrison(at)ibphoenix(dot)com>
some time ago.
HTH,
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Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>)
"The eagle never lost so much time, as
when he submitted to learn of the crow." (William Blake)
From: | "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg(at)turnstep(dot)com> |
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Subject: | Re: firebird getting some press |
Date: | 2004-02-10 04:07:41 |
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(By the way, Mozilla has finally dropped the Firebird name. As
Tom Lane once said, at lease that's one problem we will never have
to worry about! :)
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1477647,00.asp
This one is just a testament to the um..fervor of the Firebird
folks. Some of them seem truly fanatical in the online discussion
forums I've seen. They know how to flood online polls as well. :)
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7010&mode=thread&order=0
Not a bad article overall, but with some serious concerns:
"Even though PostgreSQL offers a stored procedure language, there are
many different languages (Perl, Tcl, Python) in which one can write
the stored procedures. This variation could lead to some problems
when one developer leaves and other joins the project. Using a
standard stored procedure language, however, avoids this problem."
The article goes out of its way to compare and contrast against
whichever database product (MySQL, PostgreSQL, Sybase, etc.) makes
it sound the best at that moment.
Another gem:
"I have found the task of converting from Oracle or Sybase to MySQL
or PostgreSQL to be a bit daunting, as the nature of these databases
is quite different from the commercial offerings."
Does anyone have a clear explanation of their license? I know it is
GPL-flavored, but I don't recall if we ever nailed it down.
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Greg Sabino Mullane greg(at)turnstep(dot)com
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From: | Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> |
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To: | "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg(at)turnstep(dot)com>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: firebird getting some press |
Date: | 2004-02-10 06:48:17 |
Message-ID: | 200402092248.17555.josh@agliodbs.com |
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Greg,
> (By the way, Mozilla has finally dropped the Firebird name. As
> Tom Lane once said, at lease that's one problem we will never have
> to worry about! :)
Damn. You mean I gotta change my desktop icons? What are they calling it?
> This one is just a testament to the um..fervor of the Firebird
> folks. Some of them seem truly fanatical in the online discussion
> forums I've seen. They know how to flood online polls as well. :)
Well, the project has needed a shot in the arm for the previous year. Good
for them.
> This variation could lead to some problems
> when one developer leaves and other joins the project. Using a
> standard stored procedure language, however, avoids this problem."
Yeah. I laughed at this one. Talk about turning a bug into a feature!
> The article goes out of its way to compare and contrast against
> whichever database product (MySQL, PostgreSQL, Sybase, etc.) makes
> it sound the best at that moment.
Hey, they'll calm down once they no longer feel that they have to prove their
right to exist. I'll bet that Ann answers the question "WIth MySQL and
PostgreSQL, why do we need you?" at *least* twice a week. And you can bet
that they're not looking forward to our Windows version.
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Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco