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Subject: | Re: Pl/Tcl problem |
Date: | 2001-12-17 16:51:29 |
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Oooooh. Harsh. I use tcl exclusively. I have not had any problem and am keeping up with the latest versions of PostgreSQL.
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Maybe hardly anyone who uses tcl runs RedHat? ;^)
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>>> Trond Eivind Glomsrød <teg(at)redhat(dot)com> 12/15/01 09:17AM >>>
Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> But I'm not sure that this has anything to do with Alvaro's problem.
> The bogus choice of soname has doubtless been that way for awhile,
> and yet we've not had other complaints.
Biggest reason: Hardly anyone uses tcl.
We've shipped it that way, and there was one complaint month after we
shipped... Comparing that to feedback on other areas in the same
package, I just don't think the tcl functionality is used much. Tcl is
exactly all the rage anymore.
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From: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Ian Harding <ianh(at)tpchd(dot)org> |
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Subject: | Re: Pl/Tcl problem |
Date: | 2001-12-17 17:19:40 |
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> Oooooh. Harsh. I use tcl exclusively. I have not had any problem and am keeping up with the latest versions of PostgreSQL.
>
> <comedy_not_invitation_to_flame>
>
> Maybe hardly anyone who uses tcl runs RedHat? ;^)
>
> <\comedy_not_invitation_to_flame>
If not Tcl/Tk, I was wondering what other scripting language people use
to write X apps? Python? Perl/Tk? Hard to argue these are
particularly better than Tcl/Tk, especially for small apps.
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Subject: | Re: Pl/Tcl problem |
Date: | 2001-12-17 17:24:51 |
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Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> > Oooooh. Harsh. I use tcl exclusively. I have not had any problem and am keeping up with the latest versions of PostgreSQL.
> >
> > <comedy_not_invitation_to_flame>
> >
> > Maybe hardly anyone who uses tcl runs RedHat? ;^)
> >
> > <\comedy_not_invitation_to_flame>
>
> If not Tcl/Tk, I was wondering what other scripting language people use
> to write X apps? Python? Perl/Tk? Hard to argue these are
> particularly better than Tcl/Tk, especially for small apps.
X? Python + glade is used a lot, Perl-GTK is also popular. Or you
write it in C or C++ (kde). Perhaps even java. I haven't seen much
use of tcl/tk for this in years.
(FWIW, we had a few tcl/tk in Red Hat Linux a couple of years
ago. All the ones we made are gone, and the ones in most apps as well)
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Trond Eivind Glomsrød
Red Hat, Inc.
From: | Darren Ferguson <darren(at)crystalballinc(dot)com> |
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To: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Ian Harding <ianh(at)tpchd(dot)org>, teg(at)redhat(dot)com, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Pl/Tcl problem |
Date: | 2001-12-17 18:10:35 |
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It is everyone's choice and API.
I use the pltcl because i use tcl when using aolserver. It is very good
and i know a lot of other people who use the tcl api also.
However i am not taking anything away from perl,python and the other
languages because they are all good in their own way
My 2 cents
Darren
Darren Ferguson
Software Engineer
Openband
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Oooooh. Harsh. I use tcl exclusively. I have not had any problem and am keeping up with the latest versions of PostgreSQL.
> >
> > <comedy_not_invitation_to_flame>
> >
> > Maybe hardly anyone who uses tcl runs RedHat? ;^)
> >
> > <\comedy_not_invitation_to_flame>
>
> If not Tcl/Tk, I was wondering what other scripting language people use
> to write X apps? Python? Perl/Tk? Hard to argue these are
> particularly better than Tcl/Tk, especially for small apps.
>
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From: | Lamar Owen <lamar(dot)owen(at)wgcr(dot)org> |
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To: | teg(at)redhat(dot)com (Trond Eivind =?iso-8859-1?q?Glomsr=F8d?=), Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Ian Harding <ianh(at)tpchd(dot)org>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Pl/Tcl problem |
Date: | 2001-12-17 19:00:27 |
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On Monday 17 December 2001 12:24 pm, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:
> (FWIW, we had a few tcl/tk in Red Hat Linux a couple of years
> ago. All the ones we made are gone, and the ones in most apps as well)
The tcl/tk configuration apps.... Ugh.
Well, in any case, there is a problem with the pl/tcl build. The
/usr/lib/tclConfig.sh on RH 7.2 defines:
# Base command to use for combining object files into a shared library:
TCL_SHLIB_LD='gcc -pipe -shared -Wl,-soname,libtcl.so.0'
So this is where it comes from. Now, why does it work with a non-RPM
installation?
A patch is in order --but to what? Hmmm.....
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From: | Trond Eivind Glomsrød <teg(at)redhat(dot)com> |
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To: | Lamar Owen <lamar(dot)owen(at)wgcr(dot)org> |
Cc: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, Ian Harding <ianh(at)tpchd(dot)org>, <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Pl/Tcl problem |
Date: | 2001-12-17 19:06:26 |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Monday 17 December 2001 12:24 pm, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:
> > (FWIW, we had a few tcl/tk in Red Hat Linux a couple of years
> > ago. All the ones we made are gone, and the ones in most apps as well)
>
> The tcl/tk configuration apps.... Ugh.
>
> Well, in any case, there is a problem with the pl/tcl build. The
> /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh on RH 7.2 defines:
> # Base command to use for combining object files into a shared library:
> TCL_SHLIB_LD='gcc -pipe -shared -Wl,-soname,libtcl.so.0'
That's for building libtcl. Not for building other libraries - they should
obviously have a different soname.
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Trond Eivind Glomsrød
Red Hat, Inc.
From: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)atentus(dot)com> |
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To: | Lamar Owen <lamar(dot)owen(at)wgcr(dot)org> |
Cc: | Trond Eivind Glomsrød <teg(at)redhat(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, Ian Harding <ianh(at)tpchd(dot)org>, <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Pl/Tcl problem |
Date: | 2001-12-22 02:15:58 |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Monday 17 December 2001 12:24 pm, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:
> > (FWIW, we had a few tcl/tk in Red Hat Linux a couple of years
> > ago. All the ones we made are gone, and the ones in most apps as well)
>
> The tcl/tk configuration apps.... Ugh.
>
> Well, in any case, there is a problem with the pl/tcl build. The
> /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh on RH 7.2 defines:
> # Base command to use for combining object files into a shared library:
> TCL_SHLIB_LD='gcc -pipe -shared -Wl,-soname,libtcl.so.0'
>
> So this is where it comes from. Now, why does it work with a non-RPM
> installation?
I compiled it on a non-RedHat installation and then copied the file.
There was too much trouble involved in compiling directly in the RH
server, so I used my own workstation instead. I don't know if it works
compiling on RedHat.
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Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[(at)]atentus(dot)com>)
"God is real, unless declared as int"