Re: Anybody here?

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:46:48AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Justin,
>
> Who else is here?

I'm here. Shane McChesney, pleased to meet you all. (Justin, I've
talked with you by email before, after you created those great Flash
tutorials on Sequences and Referential Integrity.)

I joined this list about a week after Josh's post above, but saw it
just now in Andrew Sullivan's response.

Bruce Momjian suggested I join this list after I contacted him about
an idea I had... rather than rephrase all that and redundantly
introduce myself, here's the core of the email I sent to Bruce:

>
> I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a
> "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of
> PostgreSQL by corporations.
>
> Yesterday I registered http://www.enterprisepgsql.com to give
> myself a place to start work on the idea. There's nothing there
> yet, of course, and this won't happen overnight.
>
> I've been promoting PostgreSQL on my weblog for some time:
>
> Keeping My Money Where My Mouth Is
> http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/23
>
> Book Review: PostgreSQL Essential Reference
> http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/29
>
> Open Source Databases Linkfest
> http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/30
>
> A Structured Comparison Of OSDBs: Part One
> http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/02/01
>
> I think going to a paper periodical could really help promote
> PostgreSQL, and -- I can't promise anything at this stage, of
> course-- perhaps even contribute financially to PostgreSQL
> development down the line.
>
> I look at the 1994 issues of Linux Journal I recently bought on
> eBay, and compare them to the LJ of today, and realize that's how I
> got started with Linux: through the magazines.
>
> I'd like other people to have that opportunity with PostgreSQL.
>
> I'm not looking for any money or effort from you guys (well, maybe
> the odd article down the line), just advice, context. You've been
> around the project a long time, and I'm still just building my
> first few apps on the database.
>
> Do you know of anyone else doing anything like this? A PostgreSQL
> magazine / journal / zine / newsletter? Do you think I'm nuts? What
> other advice would you throw out there?
>
> As an independent -- as in non-BigPub -- self-published project,
> this would start really slow and grow as subscriptions permit. Kind
> of like what Bryan Richard is doing over at Py, at
> http://www.pyzine.com -- I'm holding regular counsel with Bryan for
> his guidance too.
>
> Any thoughts that you could give would be welcome.
>

The weblog mentioned above has as its theme the slow but steady
migration of my business from the MS universe to the Open universe.
PostgreSQL is my database of choice - I haven't used it as much as
I'd have liked yet, but it's where I'm headed, where I want my data
to live.

The idea of doing a self-published zine came out of my conversations
with various people about the shortcomings of computer books (too
thick, quickly out of date) and my desire to work in the print
medium.

I figured, as with my weblog, I might as well write about something I
believe in.

A first issue is months away from seeing print, of course, I'm still
in the planning stage.

I'm interested in knowing what the rest of the list thinks of the
idea... Please don't slap me too hard. :)

Thanks,

Shane McChesney
President,
Wesearch Information Services Inc.
705-735-2587

On 22 Oct 2002 at 12:13, Shane McChesney wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:46:48AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Justin,
> >
> > Who else is here?

Sorry for replying to a reply. Let me introduce myself. Shridhar Daithankar, a
Software Engineer working in India. A linux enthu guy who has done some
application programming on postgresql.. I guess that's enough..;-)

> >
> > I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a
> > "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of
> > PostgreSQL by corporations.

How about on the line of postgresqltoday.com? We all have plenty of things to
share about..

HTH
Bye
Shridhar

--
Phasers locked on target, Captain.

Shane,

> > I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a
> > "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of
> > PostgreSQL by corporations.

You might want to check out Nolo Press' book, "Starting and Running a
Successful Newsletter or Magazine."

The real question is, how many people would pay for a PostgreSQL
magazine, and how many people could you get to write articles for it?
The two questions are related, since offering more money is a good way
to get more articles, but you have to sell the magazine first ...

-Josh Berkus

[thanks josh]

On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 19:10, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Shane,
>
> > > I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a
> > > "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of
> > > PostgreSQL by corporations.
>
> You might want to check out Nolo Press' book, "Starting and Running a
> Successful Newsletter or Magazine."
>
> The real question is, how many people would pay for a PostgreSQL
> magazine, and how many people could you get to write articles for it?
> The two questions are related, since offering more money is a good way
> to get more articles, but you have to sell the magazine first ...

If you're thinking about a magazine in print, I'd guess one could try to
arrange to get it distributed along with an already established magazine
(especially if it's only just a few pages in the beginning).

But then, I don't know anything about publishing, so you'll want to
ignore me :-)

cheers
-- vbi

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Hi

I'm here too.

Jeff MacDonald
Perl/Pgsql Geek

Just curious, is there a postgresql pay pal account setup ?

This should be on all of the pgsql pages if one exists.

Anyone remember a few years back Slashdot was sending out those
postcard sized flyers to IT folks all over the place ?

I wonder what that kind of thing costs.. I for one thing PostgreSQL
postcards would be an awesome marketing idea.. pass them out at
conferences, send to the random folks etc..

jeff.

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> [mailto:pgsql-advocacy-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org]On Behalf Of Adrian
> 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 4:05 PM
> To: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Anybody here?
>
>
> [thanks josh]
>
> On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 19:10, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Shane,
> >
> > > > I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a
> > > > "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of
> > > > PostgreSQL by corporations.
> >
> > You might want to check out Nolo Press' book, "Starting and Running a
> > Successful Newsletter or Magazine."
> >
> > The real question is, how many people would pay for a PostgreSQL
> > magazine, and how many people could you get to write articles for it?
> > The two questions are related, since offering more money is a good way
> > to get more articles, but you have to sell the magazine first ...
>
> If you're thinking about a magazine in print, I'd guess one could try to
> arrange to get it distributed along with an already established magazine
> (especially if it's only just a few pages in the beginning).
>
> But then, I don't know anything about publishing, so you'll want to
> ignore me :-)
>
> cheers
> -- vbi
>
> --
> this email is protected by a digital signature http://fortytwo.ch/gpg
>
> NOTE: get my key here: http://www.google.com/search?q=mQGiBDx2a6ERBAC8l
>

I like the idea of a 'zine. That would be great.

Something I had been thinking about recently was a "column" of sorts with
items from pgsql-general. That list is too big to follow closely, but it is full of
useful tidbits. I could write such a column or perhaps several of us could work
together to produce such a column. It would be easier with several people since
we are all working on our own projects as well.

elein(at)norcov(dot)com

On Tuesday 22 October 2002 09:13, Shane McChesney wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:46:48AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Justin,
> >
> > Who else is here?
>
> I'm here. Shane McChesney, pleased to meet you all. (Justin, I've
> talked with you by email before, after you created those great Flash
> tutorials on Sequences and Referential Integrity.)
>
> I joined this list about a week after Josh's post above, but saw it
> just now in Andrew Sullivan's response.
>
> Bruce Momjian suggested I join this list after I contacted him about
> an idea I had... rather than rephrase all that and redundantly
>
> introduce myself, here's the core of the email I sent to Bruce:
> > I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a
> > "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of
> > PostgreSQL by corporations.
> >
> > Yesterday I registered http://www.enterprisepgsql.com to give
> > myself a place to start work on the idea. There's nothing there
> > yet, of course, and this won't happen overnight.
> >
> > I've been promoting PostgreSQL on my weblog for some time:
> >
> > Keeping My Money Where My Mouth Is
> > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/23
> >
> > Book Review: PostgreSQL Essential Reference
> > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/29
> >
> > Open Source Databases Linkfest
> > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/30
> >
> > A Structured Comparison Of OSDBs: Part One
> > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/02/01
> >
> > I think going to a paper periodical could really help promote
> > PostgreSQL, and -- I can't promise anything at this stage, of
> > course-- perhaps even contribute financially to PostgreSQL
> > development down the line.
> >
> > I look at the 1994 issues of Linux Journal I recently bought on
> > eBay, and compare them to the LJ of today, and realize that's how I
> > got started with Linux: through the magazines.
> >
> > I'd like other people to have that opportunity with PostgreSQL.
> >
> > I'm not looking for any money or effort from you guys (well, maybe
> > the odd article down the line), just advice, context. You've been
> > around the project a long time, and I'm still just building my
> > first few apps on the database.
> >
> > Do you know of anyone else doing anything like this? A PostgreSQL
> > magazine / journal / zine / newsletter? Do you think I'm nuts? What
> > other advice would you throw out there?
> >
> > As an independent -- as in non-BigPub -- self-published project,
> > this would start really slow and grow as subscriptions permit. Kind
> > of like what Bryan Richard is doing over at Py, at
> > http://www.pyzine.com -- I'm holding regular counsel with Bryan for
> > his guidance too.
> >
> > Any thoughts that you could give would be welcome.
>
> The weblog mentioned above has as its theme the slow but steady
> migration of my business from the MS universe to the Open universe.
> PostgreSQL is my database of choice - I haven't used it as much as
> I'd have liked yet, but it's where I'm headed, where I want my data
> to live.
>
> The idea of doing a self-published zine came out of my conversations
> with various people about the shortcomings of computer books (too
> thick, quickly out of date) and my desire to work in the print
> medium.
>
> I figured, as with my weblog, I might as well write about something I
> believe in.
>
> A first issue is months away from seeing print, of course, I'm still
> in the planning stage.
>
> I'm interested in knowing what the rest of the list thinks of the
> idea... Please don't slap me too hard. :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shane McChesney
> President,
> Wesearch Information Services Inc.
> 705-735-2587
>
>
>
>
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Hi,

> On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:46:48AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Justin,
>
> Who else is here?

I'm here, too. ;)

I'm from Turkey. Currently maintaining Turkish translation of Advocacy
site and hosting official mirror of techdocs site.

Also, presenting lots of PostgreSQL seminars all around the country. My
main aim is to convince government departments to use PostgreSQL mode and
more. In addition to them, published Turkish PostreSQL tutorials.

Also, I'm trying to form a "Turkish PostgreSQL Users' Society".

Thanks a lot to Justin, for assisting me a lot since I've known him.

Regards.
--

Devrim GUNDUZ

devrim(at)oper(dot)metu(dot)edu(dot)tr Tel : (312) 295 9318
devrim(dot)gunduz(at)linux(dot)org(dot)tr Faks : (312) 295 9494

Web : http://devrim.oper.metu.edu.tr
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