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From: | Glyn Astill <glynastill(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk> |
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To: | pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Wikipedia entry - AmigaOS port - error? |
Date: | 2010-04-01 16:03:24 |
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Hi Chaps,
Just noticed on the wikipedia page under rdbms, it lists postgresql as available on AmigaOS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database_management_systems
Is this just an error, as I see edb advanced server is also listed as available, or was there some working code at some point in time?
I'm just merely amused/interested, I've got a stupidly modified Amiga somewhere from my teenage years, but I doubt I'll be pulling it out to try.
Glyn
From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Glyn Astill <glynastill(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk> |
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Subject: | Re: Wikipedia entry - AmigaOS port - error? |
Date: | 2010-04-01 17:02:42 |
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Glyn Astill <glynastill(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk> writes:
> Just noticed on the wikipedia page under rdbms, it lists postgresql as available on AmigaOS.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database_management_systems
> Is this just an error, as I see edb advanced server is also listed as available, or was there some working code at some point in time?
I think it's probably bogus. There's some mention in very old versions
of the ports list of being able to run on top of NetBSD on Amiga
hardware. But unless somebody had code to duplicate the Unix syscall set
on AmigaOS, there'd have been no way to make PG run on that.
regards, tom lane
From: | Glyn Astill <glynastill(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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Subject: | Re: Wikipedia entry - AmigaOS port - error? |
Date: | 2010-04-01 21:28:13 |
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--- On Thu, 1/4/10, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> > Just noticed on the wikipedia page under rdbms, it
> lists postgresql as available on AmigaOS.
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database_management_systems
>
> > Is this just an error, as I see edb advanced server is
> also listed as available, or was there some working code at
> some point in time?
>
> I think it's probably bogus. There's some mention in
> very old versions
> of the ports list of being able to run on top of NetBSD on
> Amiga
> hardware. But unless somebody had code to duplicate
> the Unix syscall set
> on AmigaOS, there'd have been no way to make PG run on
> that.
>
Thanks Tom, I thought as much, I recall the Amiga community being full of vaporware.
But I do remember there was a set of libs called ixemul (http://aminet.net/package/dev/gg/ixemul-bin) that a lot of people used to port unix apps to the Amiga with, probably not enough to port postgres though.
Glyn
From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Glyn Astill <glynastill(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk> |
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Subject: | Re: Wikipedia entry - AmigaOS port - error? |
Date: | 2010-04-01 21:40:29 |
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Glyn Astill <glynastill(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk> writes:
> But I do remember there was a set of libs called ixemul (http://aminet.net/package/dev/gg/ixemul-bin) that a lot of people used to port unix apps to the Amiga with, probably not enough to port postgres though.
Ah, I wondered if there might not be such a thing. However, according
to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixemul.library it doesn't have support
for fork(), which would have been a complete showstopper back in the day
(though since the Windows port in 8.0 we can live without it). So that
pretty much kills any thought that it might've once worked and we just
forgot.
regards, tom lane
From: | Glyn Astill <glynastill(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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Subject: | Re: Wikipedia entry - AmigaOS port - error? |
Date: | 2010-04-01 22:12:42 |
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--- On Thu, 1/4/10, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> > But I do remember there was a set of libs called
> ixemul (http://aminet.net/package/dev/gg/ixemul-bin) that a lot
> of people used to port unix apps to the Amiga with, probably
> not enough to port postgres though.
>
> Ah, I wondered if there might not be such a thing.
> However, according
> to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixemul.library it doesn't
> have support
> for fork(), which would have been a complete showstopper
> back in the day
> (though since the Windows port in 8.0 we can live without
> it). So that
> pretty much kills any thought that it might've once worked
> and we just
> forgot.
>
And now you mention it, I remember that was exactly the reason why the last version of perl for Amiga was 5.7.2, it says there was support for vfork() but not fork()
http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/CPAN/perl/pod/perlamiga.html#perl_5_8_0_broken_in_amigaos
Glyn
From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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Subject: | Re: Wikipedia entry - AmigaOS port - error? |
Date: | 2010-04-13 00:57:52 |
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Glyn Astill <glynastill(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk> writes:
> > But I do remember there was a set of libs called ixemul (http://aminet.net/package/dev/gg/ixemul-bin) that a lot of people used to port unix apps to the Amiga with, probably not enough to port postgres though.
>
> Ah, I wondered if there might not be such a thing. However, according
> to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixemul.library it doesn't have support
> for fork(), which would have been a complete showstopper back in the day
> (though since the Windows port in 8.0 we can live without it). So that
> pretty much kills any thought that it might've once worked and we just
> forgot.
I have removed the Amiga support mention for Postgres from Wikipedia:
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