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From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: freecode.com
Date: 2013-10-23 16:41:13
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shows wrong postgresql version.
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From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: freecode.com
Date: 2013-10-23 21:36:01
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On 10/23/2013 09:41 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> shows wrong postgresql version.

Bouncing this over to -advocacy, where I think it belongs.

Does someone have the freecode.com login?

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From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] freecode.com
Date: 2013-10-23 21:55:20
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Just checked, and it appears that both you and Bruce do, and:

==
operatic

Title: project listings maintainer

==

and

==
jfuerth

Title: Project listings maintainer

==

don't know whom they are …

On 2013-10-23, at 14:36 , Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:

> On 10/23/2013 09:41 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>
>> shows wrong postgresql version.
>
> Bouncing this over to -advocacy, where I think it belongs.
>
> Does someone have the freecode.com login?
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
> http://pgexperts.com
>
>
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From: Michael Alan Brewer <mbrewer(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] freecode.com
Date: 2013-10-23 21:57:58
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I have Freecode access? Odd... didn't turn up when I searched my mail. Huh!

---Michael Brewer
mbrewer(at)gmail(dot)com
On Oct 23, 2013 5:56 PM, "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org> wrote:

>
> Just checked, and it appears that both you and Bruce do, and:
>
> ==
> operatic <https://freecode.com/users/operatic>
>
> Title: project listings maintainer
> ==
>
> and
>
> ==
> jfuerth <https://freecode.com/users/jfuerth>
>
> Title: Project listings maintainer
> ==
>
> don't know whom they are …
>
>
> On 2013-10-23, at 14:36 , Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On 10/23/2013 09:41 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
>
> shows wrong postgresql version.
>
>
> Bouncing this over to -advocacy, where I think it belongs.
>
> Does someone have the freecode.com login?
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
> http://pgexperts.com
>
>
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>
>
>


From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] freecode.com
Date: 2013-11-20 01:49:37
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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 02:55:20PM -0700, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> Just checked, and it appears that both you and Bruce do, and:

OK, I am logged in. What should I do?

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From: Gabriele Bartolini <Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] freecode.com
Date: 2013-11-20 07:11:11
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Hi Bruce,

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:49:37 -0500, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 02:55:20PM -0700, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>
>> Just checked, and it appears that both you and Bruce do, and:
>
> OK, I am logged in. What should I do?

For the records, I usually update Barman info on freecode. I could help
maintaining information for Postgres on freecode, if you like. My
account is angusgb. No obligation. ;)

Ciao,
Gabriele
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PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it - www.2ndQuadrant.it


From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Gabriele Bartolini <Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] freecode.com
Date: 2013-11-20 13:24:40
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On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 08:11:11AM +0100, Gabriele Bartolini wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:49:37 -0500, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
> wrote:
> >On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 02:55:20PM -0700, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >>
> >>Just checked, and it appears that both you and Bruce do, and:
> >
> >OK, I am logged in. What should I do?
>
> For the records, I usually update Barman info on freecode. I could
> help maintaining information for Postgres on freecode, if you like.
> My account is angusgb. No obligation. ;)

OK, great. I have added you with full rights.

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EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

+ Everyone has their own god. +


From: Gabriele Bartolini <Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] freecode.com
Date: 2013-11-20 14:03:19
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Hi,

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:24:40 -0500, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
wrote:
> OK, great. I have added you with full rights.

There are two options now:

a) I insert the current stable versions (with today's date) for all
maintained releases, plus 9.2.0 and 9.3.0
b) I wait for the next minor version to come out

I see pros and cons in both approaches, so I'd like to hear from you
for advice.

Thanks,
Gabriele

--
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PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it - www.2ndQuadrant.it


From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Gabriele Bartolini <Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] freecode.com
Date: 2013-11-20 14:09:17
Message-ID: 20131120140917.GB22754@momjian.us
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On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 03:03:19PM +0100, Gabriele Bartolini wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:24:40 -0500, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
> wrote:
> >OK, great. I have added you with full rights.
>
> There are two options now:
>
> a) I insert the current stable versions (with today's date) for all
> maintained releases, plus 9.2.0 and 9.3.0
> b) I wait for the next minor version to come out
>
> I see pros and cons in both approaches, so I'd like to hear from you
> for advice.

Uh, either is fine. Might as well put up the most recent version of
every branch.

--
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+ Everyone has their own god. +


From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Gabriele Bartolini <Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] freecode.com
Date: 2013-11-22 18:54:28
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On 11/20/2013 03:09 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 03:03:19PM +0100, Gabriele Bartolini wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:24:40 -0500, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
>> wrote:
>>> OK, great. I have added you with full rights.
>>
>> There are two options now:
>>
>> a) I insert the current stable versions (with today's date) for all
>> maintained releases, plus 9.2.0 and 9.3.0
>> b) I wait for the next minor version to come out
>>
>> I see pros and cons in both approaches, so I'd like to hear from you
>> for advice.
>
> Uh, either is fine. Might as well put up the most recent version of
> every branch.

honestly - I would strongly vote on removing postgresql completely from
freecode(and related sites), we seem to struggle to update references on
external sites for years and years now and I don't think we actually
gain a lot (if at all) from maintaining our presence there.

Stefan


From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Gabriele Bartolini <Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it>, "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] freecode.com
Date: 2013-11-22 19:00:54
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On 11/22/2013 08:01 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Stefan Kaltenbrunner (stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc) wrote:
>> honestly - I would strongly vote on removing postgresql completely from
>> freecode(and related sites), we seem to struggle to update references on
>> external sites for years and years now and I don't think we actually
>> gain a lot (if at all) from maintaining our presence there.
>
> If that meant PG wouldn't actually show up on those sites, that'd be
> fine, but that's not how it works. *Someone else* will just end up
> posting about us up there when they figure out we're not listed or
> whatever, and then it'll end up in the same situation.

well - afaik we stopped maintaining our sourceforge entry and that one
was taken over by SF directly and is now a) always updated and b) not a
problem any more.

I consider that being a good thing if you look at the archives on -www
and -advocacy for that download^advertising platform.

Stefan


From: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Gabriele Bartolini <Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it>, "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] freecode.com
Date: 2013-11-22 19:01:41
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* Stefan Kaltenbrunner (stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc) wrote:
> honestly - I would strongly vote on removing postgresql completely from
> freecode(and related sites), we seem to struggle to update references on
> external sites for years and years now and I don't think we actually
> gain a lot (if at all) from maintaining our presence there.

If that meant PG wouldn't actually show up on those sites, that'd be
fine, but that's not how it works. *Someone else* will just end up
posting about us up there when they figure out we're not listed or
whatever, and then it'll end up in the same situation.

Thanks,

Stephen


From: Marc Fournier <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Gabriele Bartolini <Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] freecode.com
Date: 2013-11-22 19:04:45
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On Nov 22, 2013, at 11:00 , Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc> wrote:

> On 11/22/2013 08:01 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
>> * Stefan Kaltenbrunner (stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc) wrote:
>>> honestly - I would strongly vote on removing postgresql completely from
>>> freecode(and related sites), we seem to struggle to update references on
>>> external sites for years and years now and I don't think we actually
>>> gain a lot (if at all) from maintaining our presence there.
>>
>> If that meant PG wouldn't actually show up on those sites, that'd be
>> fine, but that's not how it works. *Someone else* will just end up
>> posting about us up there when they figure out we're not listed or
>> whatever, and then it'll end up in the same situation.
>
> well - afaik we stopped maintaining our sourceforge entry and that one
> was taken over by SF directly and is now a) always updated and b) not a
> problem any more.
>
> I consider that being a good thing if you look at the archives on -www
> and -advocacy for that download^advertising platform.
>

considering that there is a release checklist, starting from packaging straight though to press releases, why isn’t this part of that checklist in the first place?

it gets sporatically maintained because nobody thinks about it … make it part of the checklist of what needs to be done at relesae, and it will no longer be forgot …


From: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Gabriele Bartolini <Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it>, "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] freecode.com
Date: 2013-11-22 20:01:01
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* Stefan Kaltenbrunner (stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc) wrote:
> well - afaik we stopped maintaining our sourceforge entry and that one
> was taken over by SF directly and is now a) always updated and b) not a
> problem any more.

Well, sure, if SF maintains it directly, that's great.

Thanks,

Stephen


From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>
To: Marc Fournier <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Gabriele Bartolini <Gabriele(dot)Bartolini(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)it>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] freecode.com
Date: 2013-11-22 20:44:57
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On 11/22/2013 08:04 PM, Marc Fournier wrote:
>
> On Nov 22, 2013, at 11:00 , Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc> wrote:
>
>> On 11/22/2013 08:01 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
>>> * Stefan Kaltenbrunner (stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc) wrote:
>>>> honestly - I would strongly vote on removing postgresql completely from
>>>> freecode(and related sites), we seem to struggle to update references on
>>>> external sites for years and years now and I don't think we actually
>>>> gain a lot (if at all) from maintaining our presence there.
>>>
>>> If that meant PG wouldn't actually show up on those sites, that'd be
>>> fine, but that's not how it works. *Someone else* will just end up
>>> posting about us up there when they figure out we're not listed or
>>> whatever, and then it'll end up in the same situation.
>>
>> well - afaik we stopped maintaining our sourceforge entry and that one
>> was taken over by SF directly and is now a) always updated and b) not a
>> problem any more.
>>
>> I consider that being a good thing if you look at the archives on -www
>> and -advocacy for that download^advertising platform.
>>
>
> considering that there is a release checklist, starting from packaging straight though to press releases, why isn’t this part of that checklist in the first place?

not sure - I think it even was on it once (for SF not sure about freecode)

>
> it gets sporatically maintained because nobody thinks about it … make it part of the checklist of what needs to be done at relesae, and it will no longer be forgot …

true - but my argument is that we should look into making already
involved stuff like releases _LESS_ complex and involved (and not
require anybody how does releases having random accounts on random
external sites unless absolutely required).
I by far dont see freecode "important" enough that we need to or should
care about it as part of our release workflow tbh.

Stefan