Re: Multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms.

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From: Dmitriy Igrishin <dmitigr(at)gmail(dot)com>
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Subject: Multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms.
Date: 2011-03-13 18:44:15
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Hey all,

Oleg Bartunov and I intend to begin the project of translation
of PostgreSQL documentation on Russian.
First of all, we want to create glossary to be used by translators.
However we consider that it would be nice to generalize this idea
and create a multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms on
wiki.postgresql.org. Oleg has already parsed documentation
and we have steady phrases which can be used as a start point.

Comments ?

--
// Dmitriy.


From: Pavel Golub <pavel(at)microolap(dot)com>
To: Dmitriy Igrishin <dmitigr(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-docs <pgsql-docs(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms.
Date: 2011-03-14 06:30:01
Message-ID: 99696035.20110314083001@gf.microolap.com
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Hello, Dmitriy.

Great idea!

You wrote:

DI> Hey all,

DI> Oleg Bartunov and I intend to begin the project of translation
DI> of PostgreSQL documentation on Russian.
DI> First of all, we want to create glossary to be used by translators.
DI> However we consider that it would be nice to generalize this idea
DI> and create a multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms on
DI> wiki.postgresql.org. Oleg has already parsed documentation
DI> and we have steady phrases which can be used as a start point.

DI> Comments ?

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With best wishes,
Pavel mailto:pavel(at)gf(dot)microolap(dot)com


From: Euler Taveira de Oliveira <euler(at)timbira(dot)com>
To: Dmitriy Igrishin <dmitigr(at)gmail(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: Multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms.
Date: 2011-03-14 19:13:45
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Em 13-03-2011 15:44, Dmitriy Igrishin escreveu:
> First of all, we want to create glossary to be used by translators.
> However we consider that it would be nice to generalize this idea
> and create a multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms on
> wiki.postgresql.org <http://wiki.postgresql.org>.
>
Nice. We already have a glossary [1] for brazilian portuguese. It is used to
PostgreSQL related translations (including gettext messages and documentation).

I'm not sure if multi-language glossary is a way to go. There are
terms/expressions that have more than one translation depending on context.
But in some languages, they have just one translation. So the brazilian
portuguese glossary would be different from russian and japanese glossary.

[1] http://www.timbira.com/pg/vp.txt

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Euler Taveira de Oliveira
http://www.timbira.com/


From: Dmitriy Igrishin <dmitigr(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Euler Taveira de Oliveira <euler(at)timbira(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: Multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms.
Date: 2011-03-14 20:41:04
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Hey Pavel, Euler

Thanks for you answers!

2011/3/14 Euler Taveira de Oliveira <euler(at)timbira(dot)com>

> Em 13-03-2011 15:44, Dmitriy Igrishin escreveu:
>
>> First of all, we want to create glossary to be used by translators.
>> However we consider that it would be nice to generalize this idea
>> and create a multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms on
>> wiki.postgresql.org <http://wiki.postgresql.org>.
>>
>> Nice. We already have a glossary [1] for brazilian portuguese. It is used
> to PostgreSQL related translations (including gettext messages and
> documentation).
>
> I'm not sure if multi-language glossary is a way to go. There are
> terms/expressions that have more than one translation depending on context.
> But in some languages, they have just one translation. So the brazilian
> portuguese glossary would be different from russian and japanese glossary.
>
There is nothing impossible. :-)
I'm sure it's possible to maintain multi-language glossary of
common phrases which are treated unequivocally.
Furthermore, nothing prevents to create specialized (or extended)
glossary for some language (e.g. for mentioned cases when
one term's translation depends on context). So, we can create
and maintain the hierarchy of glossaries with a common root
and its specializations !

>
> [1] http://www.timbira.com/pg/vp.txt
>
>
> --
> Euler Taveira de Oliveira
> http://www.timbira.com/
>

--
// Dmitriy.


From: Dmitriy Igrishin <dmitigr(at)gmail(dot)com>
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Subject: Fwd: Multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms.
Date: 2011-03-15 16:59:16
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Hey all,

Oleg Bartunov and I intend to begin the project of translation
of PostgreSQL documentation on Russian.
First of all, we want to create glossary to be used by translators.
However we consider that it would be nice to generalize this idea
and create a multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms on
wiki.postgresql.org. Oleg has already parsed documentation
and we have steady phrases which can be used as a start point.

Comments ?

--
// Dmitriy.


From: Nicolas Barbier <nicolas(dot)barbier(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Dmitriy Igrishin <dmitigr(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Multi-language glossary of PostgreSQL terms.
Date: 2011-03-15 17:28:46
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2011/3/15 Dmitriy Igrishin <dmitigr(at)gmail(dot)com>:

> Oleg Bartunov and I intend to begin the project of translation
> of PostgreSQL documentation on Russian.

Just to make sure that you are aware of a recently-started effort to
create a German translation, by Susanne and others:

<URL:http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-03/msg00346.php>

I guess it may be a good idea to share some
process/tools/infrastructure to avoid duplicating work.

Nicolas