Re: AM Lightning Debugger

Hi!

Followed the link in the news item about the AM Lightning Debugger client.
Your site says "available soon", and there is no download. How soon is
soon? If you plan to post it right now, ignore this. But from what I can
tell, your page says it'll be released with 8.3? In that case, the news
items seems to have at least an incorrect title. And really, it should be
held back until the product actually exists, no?

(I certainly don't mind posting it then, but it promised me a download I
can't find :-P)

//Magnus

On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 10:36:39AM -0600, support wrote:
> Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 09:54:42AM -0600, support wrote:
> >
> >>Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi!
> >>>
> >>>Followed the link in the news item about the AM Lightning Debugger
> >>>client.
> >>>Your site says "available soon", and there is no download. How soon is
> >>>soon? If you plan to post it right now, ignore this. But from what I can
> >>>tell, your page says it'll be released with 8.3? In that case, the news
> >>>items seems to have at least an incorrect title. And really, it should be
> >>>held back until the product actually exists, no?
> >>>
> >>>(I certainly don't mind posting it then, but it promised me a download I
> >>>can't find :-P)
> >>>
> >>>//Magnus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
> Hi Magnus,
> I don't think anything could be added to the title, but maybe you could
> change the body to this:
>
> NOTE: This is a pre-release informational announcement.
>
> AM Lightning Debugger is a client for PostgreSQL servers version 8.2 and
> up that have the PL/pgSQL debugger plugin installed. AM Lightning
> Debugger will be available in conjunction with the release of PostgreSQL
> 8.3 as a FREE download for the community.
> AM Lightning Debugger is a stand alone program that does not require the
> use of any admin program and should be perfect for those that prefer to
> use the psql command line program.
>
> Please see http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com for more information and a
> screen shot.
>
> If anyone is interested in helping debug the debugger please send a
> email to support(at)amsoftwaredesign(dot)com with a title of "Debugger Beta"
> and we will provide a pre-release testing build along
> with instructions on how to report issues.
>
> Thank you,
>
> AM Software Design

Hi!

I'm bouncing this of to -www, since I'm not exactly sure what our policy is
on announcing products that aren't available for public access yet.

//Magnus

Magnus Hagander wrote:
> I'm bouncing this of to -www, since I'm not exactly sure what our policy is
> on announcing products that aren't available for public access yet.

We don't. We will approve one public (ie. not 'by invitation' or limited
download) beta announcement, and major version releases for commercial
products, provided they're not overly frequent. This may change in the
upcoming revised policy of course, but that's not being applied yet.

/D

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:25:48 +0100
Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I'm bouncing this of to -www, since I'm not exactly sure what our
> policy is on announcing products that aren't available for public
> access yet.

-1 ... If it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. I am sure it will exist
in the future so let's promote what is probably a great product when it
actually hits.

Alternatively, release a Beta or something.

Joshua D. Drake

>
> //Magnus
>
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- --On Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:26:30 -0800 "Joshua D. Drake"
<jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:25:48 +0100
> Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm bouncing this of to -www, since I'm not exactly sure what our
>> policy is on announcing products that aren't available for public
>> access yet.
>
> -1 ... If it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. I am sure it will exist
> in the future so let's promote what is probably a great product when it
> actually hits.

Agreed ... since when do we start promoting vaporware? :)

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