Re: Jav Database Performance

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From: "Walter Cruz" <walter(dot)php(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Jav Database Performance
Date: 2007-02-25 01:03:30
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From: Markus Schiltknecht <markus(at)bluegap(dot)ch>
To: Walter Cruz <walter(dot)php(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Jav Database Performance
Date: 2007-02-26 09:35:02
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Hi,

Walter Cruz wrote:
> Have anyone seen this?
>
> http://devloop.org.uk/documentation/database-performance/

Looks like a good, well documented benchmark. Was well worth the read.
Probably even more if you're more into Java than I am.

What's surprising me is, that PostgreSQL often was 'only marginally
slower' compared to MySQL. First, I thought: wow, MySQL must have
improved. But later on, I've read that they tested the MyISAM storage
engine. Thus, I'm surprised that

a) they perform only marginally better, and

b) that the results are so close and similar.

I can only conclude, that PostgreSQL does a very well job in keeping the
costs of consistency very low. ;-)

Regards

Markus


From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Markus Schiltknecht <markus(at)bluegap(dot)ch>
Cc: Walter Cruz <walter(dot)php(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Jav Database Performance
Date: 2007-02-26 16:39:04
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Markus Schiltknecht wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Walter Cruz wrote:
>> Have anyone seen this?
>>
>> http://devloop.org.uk/documentation/database-performance/
>
> Looks like a good, well documented benchmark. Was well worth the read.
> Probably even more if you're more into Java than I am.
>
> What's surprising me is, that PostgreSQL often was 'only marginally
> slower' compared to MySQL. First, I thought: wow, MySQL must have
> improved. But later on, I've read that they tested the MyISAM storage
> engine. Thus, I'm surprised that
>
> a) they perform only marginally better, and
>
> b) that the results are so close and similar.
>
> I can only conclude, that PostgreSQL does a very well job in keeping the
> costs of consistency very low. ;-)

Or:

We Rock!

Joshua D. Drake

>
> Regards
>
> Markus
>
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From: Florian Weimer <fw(at)deneb(dot)enyo(dot)de>
To: Markus Schiltknecht <markus(at)bluegap(dot)ch>
Cc: Walter Cruz <walter(dot)php(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Jav Database Performance
Date: 2007-02-26 19:59:56
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* Markus Schiltknecht:

> I can only conclude, that PostgreSQL does a very well job in keeping
> the costs of consistency very low. ;-)

And the cost of indexes. Which makes me doubt whether there is a
systematic error in the benchmark. Perhaps this is a result of the
small working set.


From: Markus Schiltknecht <markus(at)bluegap(dot)ch>
To: Florian Weimer <fw(at)deneb(dot)enyo(dot)de>
Cc: Walter Cruz <walter(dot)php(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Jav Database Performance
Date: 2007-02-26 20:03:19
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Hi,

Florian Weimer wrote:
> And the cost of indexes. Which makes me doubt whether there is a
> systematic error in the benchmark. Perhaps this is a result of the
> small working set.

Uh.. I thought they probably have the same indexes on MySQL as on
PostgreSQL...

Markus


From: Florian Weimer <fw(at)deneb(dot)enyo(dot)de>
To: Markus Schiltknecht <markus(at)bluegap(dot)ch>
Cc: Walter Cruz <walter(dot)php(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Jav Database Performance
Date: 2007-02-26 20:11:29
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* Markus Schiltknecht:

>> And the cost of indexes. Which makes me doubt whether there is a
>> systematic error in the benchmark. Perhaps this is a result of the
>> small working set.
>
> Uh.. I thought they probably have the same indexes on MySQL as on
> PostgreSQL...

No, I meant the comment on the bottom of page 11. But I'm not sure if
the data backs it, the diagram is so hard to read.


From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Cc: "Walter Cruz" <walter(dot)php(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Jav Database Performance
Date: 2007-04-23 19:36:56
Message-ID: 200704231236.56481.josh@agliodbs.com
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Walter,

> http://devloop.org.uk/documentation/database-performance/

Hmmm ... we could use someone to run a properly configured PostgreSQL on his
test. I'm pleasantly surprised by how well we did against other DBs with *no
performance tuning*. Cool!

--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL @ Sun
San Francisco


From: Jim Nasby <decibel(at)decibel(dot)org>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org, "Walter Cruz" <walter(dot)php(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Jav Database Performance
Date: 2007-04-27 15:26:50
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On Apr 23, 2007, at 8:36 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> http://devloop.org.uk/documentation/database-performance/
>
> Hmmm ... we could use someone to run a properly configured
> PostgreSQL on his
> test. I'm pleasantly surprised by how well we did against other DBs
> with *no
> performance tuning*. Cool!

Better yet would be if we shipped with different configs so they
could at least pick a more reasonable configuration for their hardware.

Something else that comes to mind... if they're running the default
config, they're not running autovacuum; so were they vacuuming at all?
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