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Re: ODBC driver overpopulation (was Re: Final decision)

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From:	"Dave Page" <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>
To:	"Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Cc:	"Josh Berkus" <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, "Joel Fradkin" <jfradkin(at)wazagua(dot)com>, "PostgreSQL Perform" <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	Re: Final decision
Date:	2005-04-27 19:47:17
Message-ID:	E7F85A1B5FF8D44C8A1AF6885BC9A0E490D9A1@ratbert.vale-housing.co.uk
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com]
> Sent: 27 April 2005 17:46
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: Josh Berkus; Joel Fradkin; PostgreSQL Perform
> Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Final decision
>
> > It is? No-one told the developers...
>
> We have mentioned it on the list.

Err, yes. But that's not quite the same as core telling us the current
driver is being replaced.

Regards, Dave.

From:	Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To:	"Dave Page" <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>
Cc:	"Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, "Joel Fradkin" <jfradkin(at)wazagua(dot)com>, "PostgreSQL Perform" <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	Re: Final decision
Date:	2005-04-28 03:09:27
Message-ID:	200504272009.27952.josh@agliodbs.com
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Dave, folks,

> Err, yes. But that's not quite the same as core telling us the current
> driver is being replaced.

Sorry, I spoke off the cuff. I also was unaware that work on the current
driver had renewed. Us Core people are not omnicient, believe it or don't.

Mind you, having 2 different teams working on two different ODBC drivers is a
problem for another list ...

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

From:	Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>
To:	Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc:	Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Perform <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	ODBC driver overpopulation (was Re: Final decision)
Date:	2005-04-28 03:36:37
Message-ID:	20050428033637.GB26819@dcc.uchile.cl
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:09:27PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Mind you, having 2 different teams working on two different ODBC drivers is a
> problem for another list ...

Only two? I thought another commercial entity was also working on their
own ODBC driver, so there may be three of them.

--
Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[(at)]dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>)
"Always assume the user will do much worse than the stupidest thing
you can imagine." (Julien PUYDT)

From:	"Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To:	Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>
Cc:	Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>, PostgreSQL Perform <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	Re: ODBC driver overpopulation (was Re: Final decision)
Date:	2005-04-28 03:38:34
Message-ID:	42705ABA.6050609@commandprompt.com
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>>Mind you, having 2 different teams working on two different ODBC drivers is a
>>problem for another list ...
>
>
> Only two? I thought another commercial entity was also working on their
> own ODBC driver, so there may be three of them.

Well I only know of one company actually working on ODBC actively and
that is Command Prompt, If there are others I would like to hear about
it because I would rather work with someone than against them.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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From:	"Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To:	Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>
Cc:	Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Joel Fradkin <jfradkin(at)wazagua(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Perform <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	Re: Final decision
Date:	2005-04-28 03:43:53
Message-ID:	42705BF9.7070707@commandprompt.com
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Dave Page wrote:
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com]
>>Sent: 27 April 2005 17:46
>>To: Dave Page
>>Cc: Josh Berkus; Joel Fradkin; PostgreSQL Perform
>>Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Final decision
>>
>>
>>>It is? No-one told the developers...
>>
>>We have mentioned it on the list.
>
>
> Err, yes. But that's not quite the same as core telling us the current
> driver is being replaced.

Well I don't think anyone knew that the current driver is still being
maintained?

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

>
> Regards, Dave.

From:	Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To:	"Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Cc:	Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>, PostgreSQL Perform <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL odbc list <pgsql-odbc(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	Re: ODBC driver overpopulation (was Re: [PERFORM] Final decision)
Date:	2005-04-28 03:44:05
Message-ID:	200504280344.j3S3i5s25117@candle.pha.pa.us
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Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >>Mind you, having 2 different teams working on two different ODBC drivers is a
> >>problem for another list ...
> >
> >
> > Only two? I thought another commercial entity was also working on their
> > own ODBC driver, so there may be three of them.
>
> Well I only know of one company actually working on ODBC actively and
> that is Command Prompt, If there are others I would like to hear about
> it because I would rather work with someone than against them.

Well, you should talk to Pervasive because they have a team working on
improving the existing driver. I am sure they would want to work
together too.

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From:	Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To:	"Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Cc:	Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Joel Fradkin <jfradkin(at)wazagua(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Perform <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:	Re: Final decision
Date:	2005-04-28 03:47:28
Message-ID:	200504280347.j3S3lSU25649@candle.pha.pa.us
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Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Dave Page wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com]
> >>Sent: 27 April 2005 17:46
> >>To: Dave Page
> >>Cc: Josh Berkus; Joel Fradkin; PostgreSQL Perform
> >>Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Final decision
> >>
> >>
> >>>It is? No-one told the developers...
> >>
> >>We have mentioned it on the list.
> >
> >
> > Err, yes. But that's not quite the same as core telling us the current
> > driver is being replaced.
>
> Well I don't think anyone knew that the current driver is still being
> maintained?

We have been looking for someone to take over ODBC and Pervasive agreed
to do it, but there wasn't a big announcement about it. I have
discussed this with them.