Re: Reading recommendations

VOIP over BitTorrent?

;-)

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From: pgsql-performance-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org [mailto:pgsql-performance-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org] On Behalf Of Richard_D_Levine(at)Raytheon(dot)com
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:27 AM
To: Michael Fuhr
Cc: Marc Burgauer; pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org; pgsql-performance-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Reading recommendations

pgsql-performance-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org wrote on 03/30/2005 10:58:21 AM:

>
> Allow telecommute from across the pond and I might be interested :-)

Please post phone bills to this list.

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Mohan, Ross wrote:
> VOIP over BitTorrent?

Now *that* I want to see. Aught to be at least as interesting
as the "TCP/IP over carrier pigeon" experiment - and more
challenging to boot!

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 16:39:47 -0000,
"Mohan, Ross" <RMohan(at)arbinet(dot)com> wrote:
> VOIP over BitTorrent?

Plain VOIP shouldn't be a problem. And if you want to do tricky things
you can use Asterisk on both ends. Asterisk is open source (GPL, duel
licensed from Digium) and runs on low powered linux boxes. A card that
talks to your existing analog phones and your existing phone line
costs $200. You don't need special cards if you have IP phones or a headset
connected to your computer and don't use your local phone company for
the calls.

It was very challenging. I worked on the credit window sizing and
retransmission timer estimation algorithms. We took into account weather
patterns, size and age of the bird, feeding times, and the average number
of times a bird circles before determining magnetic north. Interestingly,
packet size had little effect in the final algorithms.

pgsql-performance-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org wrote on 03/30/2005 11:52:13 AM:

> Mohan, Ross wrote:
> > VOIP over BitTorrent?
>
> Now *that* I want to see. Aught to be at least as interesting
> as the "TCP/IP over carrier pigeon" experiment - and more
> challenging to boot!
>

It was very challenging. I worked on the credit window sizing and
retransmission timer estimation algorithms. We took into account weather
patterns, size and age of the bird, feeding times, and the average number
of times a bird circles before determining magnetic north. Interestingly,
packet size had little effect in the final algorithms.

I would love to share them with all of you, but they're classified.

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Richard_D_Levine(at)raytheon(dot)com wrote:

>>Mohan, Ross wrote:
>>
>>>VOIP over BitTorrent?
>>
>>Now *that* I want to see. Aught to be at least as interesting
>>as the "TCP/IP over carrier pigeon" experiment - and more
>>challenging to boot!
>>
>
>
> It was very challenging. I worked on the credit window sizing and
> retransmission timer estimation algorithms. We took into account weather
> patterns, size and age of the bird, feeding times, and the average number
> of times a bird circles before determining magnetic north. Interestingly,
> packet size had little effect in the final algorithms.
>
> I would love to share them with all of you, but they're classified.

Ah, but VOIPOBT requires many people all saying the same thing at the
same time. The synchronization alone (since you need to distribute
these people adequately to avoid overloading a trunk line...) is probably
sufficiently hard to make it interesting. Then there are the problems of
different accents, dilects, and languages ;)

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Steve Wampler -- swampler(at)noao(dot)edu
The gods that smiled on your birth are now laughing out loud.

Steve Wampler <swampler(at)noao(dot)edu> wrote on 03/30/2005 03:58:12 PM:

> Richard_D_Levine(at)raytheon(dot)com wrote:
>
> >>Mohan, Ross wrote:
> >>
> >>>VOIP over BitTorrent?
> >>
> >>Now *that* I want to see. Aught to be at least as interesting
> >>as the "TCP/IP over carrier pigeon" experiment - and more
> >>challenging to boot!
> >>
> >
> >
> > It was very challenging. I worked on the credit window sizing and
> > retransmission timer estimation algorithms. We took into account
weather
> > patterns, size and age of the bird, feeding times, and the average
number
> > of times a bird circles before determining magnetic north.
Interestingly,
> > packet size had little effect in the final algorithms.
> >
> > I would love to share them with all of you, but they're classified.
>
> Ah, but VOIPOBT requires many people all saying the same thing at the
> same time. The synchronization alone (since you need to distribute
> these people adequately to avoid overloading a trunk line...) is probably
> sufficiently hard to make it interesting. Then there are the problems of
> different accents, dilects, and languages ;)

Interestingly, we had a follow on contract to investigate routing
optimization using flooding techniques. Oddly, it was commissioned by a
consortium of local car washes. Work stopped when the park service sued us
for the cost of cleaning all the statuary, and the company went out of
business. We were serving "cornish game hens" at our frequent dinner
parties for months.

>
> --
> Steve Wampler -- swampler(at)noao(dot)edu
> The gods that smiled on your birth are now laughing out loud.

On 2005-03-31 15:19, Richard_D_Levine(at)Raytheon(dot)com wrote:
>> >>Now *that* I want to see. Aught to be at least as interesting
>> >>as the "TCP/IP over carrier pigeon" experiment - and more
>> >>challenging to boot!
..
> Interestingly, we had a follow on contract to investigate routing
> optimization using flooding techniques. Oddly, it was commissioned by a
> consortium of local car washes. Work stopped when the park service sued us
> for the cost of cleaning all the statuary, and the company went out of
> business. We were serving "cornish game hens" at our frequent dinner
> parties for months.

This method might have been safer (and it works great with Apaches):
http://eagle.auc.ca/~dreid/

cheers
stefan

Stefan Weiss wrote:
> On 2005-03-31 15:19, Richard_D_Levine(at)Raytheon(dot)com wrote:
>
>>>>>Now *that* I want to see. Aught to be at least as interesting
>>>>>as the "TCP/IP over carrier pigeon" experiment - and more
>>>>>challenging to boot!
>
> ..
>
>>Interestingly, we had a follow on contract to investigate routing
>>optimization using flooding techniques. Oddly, it was commissioned by a
>>consortium of local car washes. Work stopped when the park service sued us
>>for the cost of cleaning all the statuary, and the company went out of
>>business. We were serving "cornish game hens" at our frequent dinner
>>parties for months.
>
>
> This method might have been safer (and it works great with Apaches):
> http://eagle.auc.ca/~dreid/

Aha - VOIPOBD as well as VOIPOBT! What more can one want?

VOIPOCP, I suppose...

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Steve Wampler -- swampler(at)noao(dot)edu
The gods that smiled on your birth are now laughing out loud.

pgsql-performance-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org wrote on 03/31/2005 10:48:09 AM:

> Stefan Weiss wrote:
> > On 2005-03-31 15:19, Richard_D_Levine(at)Raytheon(dot)com wrote:
> >
> >>>>>Now *that* I want to see. Aught to be at least as interesting
> >>>>>as the "TCP/IP over carrier pigeon" experiment - and more
> >>>>>challenging to boot!
> >
> > ..
> >
> >>Interestingly, we had a follow on contract to investigate routing
> >>optimization using flooding techniques. Oddly, it was commissioned by
a
> >>consortium of local car washes. Work stopped when the park service
sued us
> >>for the cost of cleaning all the statuary, and the company went out of
> >>business. We were serving "cornish game hens" at our frequent dinner
> >>parties for months.
> >
> >
> > This method might have been safer (and it works great with Apaches):
> > http://eagle.auc.ca/~dreid/
>
> Aha - VOIPOBD as well as VOIPOBT! What more can one want?
>
> VOIPOCP, I suppose...

Start collecting recipes for small game birds now. We ran out pretty
quickly. Finally came up with "Pigeon Helper" and sold it to homeless
shelters in New York. Sales were slow until we added a wine sauce.

>
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