Re: The best book

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From: Elielson Fontanezi <ElielsonF(at)prodam(dot)sp(dot)gov(dot)br>
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Subject: The best book
Date: 2002-07-26 18:58:48
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Hello fellows!

Which the best book all you can tell me to buy for Administering
PostGres
and knows the tricks of it?

..............................................
A Question...
Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I
have awaited a question.

Elielson Fontanezi
DBA Technical Support - PRODAM
+55 11 5080 9493


From: Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Elielson Fontanezi <ElielsonF(at)prodam(dot)sp(dot)gov(dot)br>
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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] The best book
Date: 2002-07-26 19:15:52
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Hi Elielson,

Nice question. :)

The "best book" for you really depends on what you are after!

Are you interested in a book which is easy to read, gives good
foundational concepts, and gives you decent skills with PostgreSQL, but
may not make you a guru?

Or, are you more after a book which is more technically advanced and
challenging, and assumes you have already learnt the easier stuff?

There are also reference volumes available (if that's what you're after,
but it doesn't sound like it).

The online books which are available have a decent amount of material in
them too, and you can buy hard copies of them so you have them nearby at
all times.

So... for us to *really* be able to give you good suggestions, we really
need to know more about what you're truly needing.

Hope that helps.

:-)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

Elielson Fontanezi wrote:
>
> Hello fellows!
>
> Which the best book all you can tell me to buy for Administering
> PostGres
> and knows the tricks of it?
>
> ..............................................
> A Question...
> Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I
> have awaited a question.
>
> Elielson Fontanezi
> DBA Technical Support - PRODAM
> +55 11 5080 9493
>
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From: "Robert J(dot) Sanford, Jr(dot)" <rsanford(at)trefs(dot)com>
To: "pgsql-general" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: The best book
Date: 2002-07-26 19:17:37
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Note - millions of cross-posts deleted...

I have read the Momjian book and am now working with the O'Reilly book. I
have not gotten far enough into the O'Reilly book to give an accurate
representation of what I think it contains but going by the TOC I am
planning on enjoying it.

I see the Momjian book is a very good book for the intended audience (I
think it is targeted at users that are new to both Postgres and SQL). I was
(still am) familiar with SQL but nowhere close to being a master of it (see
Celko for mastering SQL) and found the description of how Postgres
implemented certain features of the language to be useful. I also found the
book to be very helpful for getting a database up and running along with the
basic user administration and security.

However, the reason I went out and got the O'Reilly book was what I
perceived as a lack of depth in terms of administration and security. The
basic coverage is there but not a lot of depth. I'm hopeful the O'Reilly
book will have that for me.

The Momjian book also appears to be a significant compilation of the
electronic docs that are available for download. If you are like me and
prefer dead trees to reading a book on a CRT then it is most definitely
worth it for that reason alone.

I think that the techdocs section of the website should provide you with a
lot of material that will, at worst, give you the background to ask good
questions.

rjsjr

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>
>
> Hello fellows!
>
> Which the best book all you can tell me to buy for Administering
> PostGres
> and knows the tricks of it?
>
> ..............................................
> A Question...
> Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I
> have awaited a question.
>
> Elielson Fontanezi
> DBA Technical Support - PRODAM
> +55 11 5080 9493
>
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From: Ludwig Lim <lud_nowhere_man(at)yahoo(dot)com>
To: Elielson Fontanezi <ElielsonF(at)prodam(dot)sp(dot)gov(dot)br>
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Subject: Re: The best book
Date: 2002-07-27 02:34:23
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--- Elielson Fontanezi <ElielsonF(at)prodam(dot)sp(dot)gov(dot)br>
wrote:
> Which the best book all you can tell me to buy >
for Administering PostGres?

- I recommend PostgreSQL : Introduction and Concepts
by Bruce Momjiam if you are new to PostgreSQL.It's for
beginners to a level between intermediate and advance.
It explains nicely the features unique to PostgreSQL
not found in other DBMS.
- I haven't read other books yet, therefore I cound't
rate it compared with other books.
- Nice documentations can be found in
http://techdocs.postgresql.org

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From: stefan(at)extum(dot)com
To: Elielson Fontanezi <ElielsonF(at)prodam(dot)sp(dot)gov(dot)br>
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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] The best book
Date: 2002-07-28 16:52:21
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Hi,

Well depends what are you looking for.

I am using a lot PostgreSQL: Introduction and Concepts by Bruce Momjian.
Then I have bought "PHP and PostgreSQL Advanced Web Programming" by
Ewald Geschwinde and Hans-Juergen Schoenig

The second one has as well PHP programming tips and same examples. The
book is good and is covering as well PG administration.

Mailing list I think is important and has good tips and don't forget the
documentation: http://www.us.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/#7.2

You might find under: http://www.us.postgresql.org/books/index.html more
details.

stefan

On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Elielson Fontanezi wrote:

> Hello fellows!
>
> Which the best book all you can tell me to buy for Administering
> PostGres
> and knows the tricks of it?
>
> ..............................................
> A Question...
> Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I
> have awaited a question.
>
> Elielson Fontanezi
> DBA Technical Support - PRODAM
> +55 11 5080 9493
>
>
>
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From: "Chad R(dot) Larson" <clarson(at)eldocomp(dot)com>
To: Ludwig Lim <lud_nowhere_man(at)yahoo(dot)com>, Elielson Fontanezi <ElielsonF(at)prodam(dot)sp(dot)gov(dot)br>
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Subject: Re: The best book
Date: 2002-07-29 20:15:50
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At 07:34 PM 7/26/02 , Ludwig Lim wrote:
>--- Elielson Fontanezi <ElielsonF(at)prodam(dot)sp(dot)gov(dot)br> wrote: > Which the
>best book all you can tell me to buy > for Administering PostGres?
>
>- I recommend PostgreSQL : Introduction and Concepts by Bruce Momjiam if
>you are new to PostgreSQL.It's for beginners to a level between
>intermediate and advance. It explains nicely the features unique to
>PostgreSQL not found in other DBMS.

Bruce's book is a good one, but a large portion of the page count is
devoted to basically an SQL primer. If you aren't comfortable with SQL,
it's a good starting place.

A book that is a bit deeper in the installation and administration of
PostgreSQL is "Practical PostgreSQL" by John C. Worsley and Joshua D. Drake.

It's one of the O'reilly books, ISBN 1-56592-846-6.

-crl
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5353 North 16th Street, Suite 400
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