Re: Automated backup problems - pg_dump

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From: Jesse Burkhardt <jesse(at)skybuilders(dot)com>
To: "'pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org'" <pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Automated backup problems - pg_dump
Date: 2003-08-24 22:46:38
Message-ID: 3F49404E.5000301@skybuilders.com
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I am sure many of you have encountered the problems I am experiencing
with automating the pg_dump command from a cron. The problem arises from
a failure of this command to use the environmental variable,
PG_PASSWORD. (PGUSER, on the other hand, is picked up during command
execution.) The cron seems to fail completely when crontabbed as the
PGSQL superuser, postgres. I do, however, get partial execution when I
su to the user postgres from a cron crontabbed as root. Let me layout
some relevant info:

root orginated cron:

30 * * * * su - postgres --command="cd /var/lib/pgsql/skybuilders;
/var/lib/pgsql/skybuilders/dbbackup.pl; echo `date` > timeRun.txt"

skybuilders is a directory where I copy and dump PostgreSQL files and
DBs to be picked up by an rsync cron on an archiving machine.

dbbackup.pl is a perl script that generates a bash shell. I will excerpt
the pertinant (failing) section of the generated script
(dbbackupGenerated.sh):

PGUSER=someuser
export PGUSER
PG_PASSWORD=somepassword
export PG_PASSWORD
pg_dump -o somedb > /var/lib/pgsql/skybuilders/dbbackup/somedb.dump

When I run the script from the command line, after having su'ed into the
postgres account, this script stops at the pg_dump line waiting for a
password.

Finally I will excerpt some of the final lines of my pg_hba.conf file:

# TYPE DATABASE IP_ADDRESS MASK AUTH_TYPE
AUTH_ARGUMENT

#local all trust
#host all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 trust

# Using sockets credentials for improved security. Not available everywhere,
# but works on Linux, *BSD (and probably some others)

#local all ident sameuser

### --> Added by JSB <--

local skyTemplate md5
local sameuser md5
local all md5 admins
# use following line to perform commands as postgres without password
challenge
# local all trust

host all 10.10.40.25 255.255.255.255 md5

I understand were I to change the AUTH_TYPE setting from "md5" to
"trust" the password challenge emanating from the pg_dump command will
go away. However, I wish to maintain the use of md5 authentication.

Ideas anybody?

--

Jesse Burkhardt
jesse(at)skybuilders(dot)com (w) 617-876-5680
goose(at)aerogoose(dot)com (h) 617-354-5523


From: Stephan Szabo <sszabo(at)megazone(dot)bigpanda(dot)com>
To: Jesse Burkhardt <jesse(at)skybuilders(dot)com>
Cc: "'pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org'" <pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Automated backup problems - pg_dump
Date: 2003-08-25 07:40:18
Message-ID: 20030825003812.G79187-100000@megazone.bigpanda.com
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Jesse Burkhardt wrote:

> I am sure many of you have encountered the problems I am experiencing
> with automating the pg_dump command from a cron. The problem arises from
> a failure of this command to use the environmental variable,
> PG_PASSWORD. (PGUSER, on the other hand, is picked up during command

I think the environment variable is PGPASSWORD (no underscore) in at least
7.3 and above. Also, it's somewhat depricated in favor of using the
.pgpass file.


From: Jesse Burkhardt <jesse(at)skybuilders(dot)com>
To: Stephan Szabo <sszabo(at)megazone(dot)bigpanda(dot)com>
Cc: "'pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org'" <pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Automated backup problems - pg_dump
Date: 2003-08-25 19:07:09
Message-ID: 3F4A5E5D.3050502@skybuilders.com
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Yo Stephan,

Thanks. That was the problem: that there is no longer and underscore in
the pg password env var, PGPASSWORD.

Are you familiar with the Hungarian jazz guitarist Gabo Szabo?

Stephan Szabo wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Jesse Burkhardt wrote:
>
>
>
>>I am sure many of you have encountered the problems I am experiencing
>>with automating the pg_dump command from a cron. The problem arises from
>>a failure of this command to use the environmental variable,
>>PG_PASSWORD. (PGUSER, on the other hand, is picked up during command
>>
>>
>
>I think the environment variable is PGPASSWORD (no underscore) in at least
>7.3 and above. Also, it's somewhat depricated in favor of using the
>.pgpass file.
>
>

--

Jesse Burkhardt
jesse(at)skybuilders(dot)com (w) 617-876-5680
goose(at)aerogoose(dot)com (h) 617-354-5523


From: Chris Miles <chris_pg002(at)psychofx(dot)com>
To: Jesse Burkhardt <jesse(at)skybuilders(dot)com>
Cc: "'pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org'" <pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Automated backup problems - pg_dump
Date: 2003-08-26 18:24:18
Message-ID: 3F4BA5D2.8010805@psychofx.com
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Yes the variable is actually: PGPASSWORD

I have a crond pg_dump script (as root) that sets this variable and
dumps with "-U postgres" and uses the variable successfully.
(7.2.4).

Cheers
CM

Stephan Szabo wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Jesse Burkhardt wrote:
>>I am sure many of you have encountered the problems I am experiencing
>>with automating the pg_dump command from a cron. The problem arises from
>>a failure of this command to use the environmental variable,
>>PG_PASSWORD. (PGUSER, on the other hand, is picked up during command
>
> I think the environment variable is PGPASSWORD (no underscore) in at least
> 7.3 and above. Also, it's somewhat depricated in favor of using the
> .pgpass file.

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Chris Miles
http://chrismiles.info/