Re: [HACKERS] SQL92 specification ....

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From: "Bahena, Dario (CAP, ITS, MX)" <Dario(dot)Bahena(at)gecitsla(dot)ge(dot)com>
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Subject: SQL92 specification ....
Date: 2000-04-11 19:55:26
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Hi guys ....

I need, want,(whatever...nevermind) the SQL92 ISO/ANSI documents(it seems
they are 4 or something like that).

I´ve been looking around the web, and everywhere you find the document, you
have to pay for it.

If people are making the software free, why not the important documents,
like these kind of standards???

Since you´re the Postgresql developers, which seems to be very
SQL92-compliant, I suppose you have the documents??? Don´t you???, so, could
you send me a copy of them??? Or tell me where can a find them??? Or tell me
that I´ve to buy it??? I don´t know....

Thanks in advance ... seya

Ps. By the way, what about SQL3 standard-documents????? Are they done and
available?????


From: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart(at)alumni(dot)caltech(dot)edu>
To: "Bahena, Dario (CAP, ITS, MX)" <Dario(dot)Bahena(at)gecitsla(dot)ge(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-sql(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] SQL92 specification ....
Date: 2000-04-12 04:20:36
Message-ID: 38F3F994.569BA0EA@alumni.caltech.edu
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> If people are making the software free, why not the important documents,
> like these kind of standards???

Because selling the standards documents is a traditional way for
standards bodies to (help) pay their expenses.

> Since you´re the Postgresql developers, which seems to be very
> SQL92-compliant, I suppose you have the documents??? Don´t you???, so, could
> you send me a copy of them??? Or tell me where can a find them??? Or tell me
> that I´ve to buy it??? I don´t know....

If you want to buy two copies, send us one ;)

In the meantime, we use a combination of SQL92 *draft* standard
documents and reliable texts such as Date and Darwen to try to
understand the standard. And it works pretty well, especially since
most other databases don't match the standard exactly anyway, so we do
OK by comparison just by trying to meet it.

> Ps. By the way, what about SQL3 standard-documents????? Are they done and
> available?????

afaik *only* available as a draft standard, and afaik *nothing*
available fresher than at least a couple of years old.

I've just deposited two gzip'd files at

ftp://postgresql.org/pub/doc/sql/

which are the only "standards" docs I know about.

Good luck (especially on the SQL3 one).

- Thomas

--
Thomas Lockhart lockhart(at)alumni(dot)caltech(dot)edu
South Pasadena, California


From: "Kardos, Dr(dot) Andreas" <kardos(at)repas-aeg(dot)de>
To: "Bahena, Dario (CAP, ITS, MX)" <Dario(dot)Bahena(at)gecitsla(dot)ge(dot)com>, <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
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Subject: Re: [HACKERS] SQL92 specification ....
Date: 2000-04-12 15:47:17
Message-ID: 030701bfa496$62192d10$99301eac@Dr.repas.de
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http://ftp.digital.com/pub/standards/sql/

from August, 1994.

As I know this is still the actual draft.

Andreas Kardos

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Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. April 2000 21:55
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Ps. By the way, what about SQL3 standard-documents????? Are they done and
available?????