Re: Common table expressions and threaded comments

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From: Cultural Sublimation <cultural_sublimation(at)yahoo(dot)com>
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Subject: Common table expressions and threaded comments
Date: 2009-04-17 12:40:22
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Greetings,

I need to implement the classical problem of threaded comments in a Postgresql
database. I know that the upcoming 8.4 release includes Common Table
Expressions, so I have to ask: is this feature the mother-of-all-solutions
to the threaded comments problem, or is it still worth investigating ltree?

Also, lots of people mention Joe Celko's book on this subject. Is it still
a valid resource, or do CTE's make it obsolete?

Thank you!
C.S.


From: Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz <gryzman(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: cultural_sublimation(at)yahoo(dot)com
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Subject: Re: Common table expressions and threaded comments
Date: 2009-04-17 12:53:35
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Cultural Sublimation
<cultural_sublimation(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I need to implement the classical problem of threaded comments in a Postgresql
> database.  I know that the upcoming 8.4 release includes Common Table
> Expressions, so I have to ask: is this feature the mother-of-all-solutions
> to the threaded comments problem, or is it still worth investigating ltree?
>
> Also, lots of people mention Joe Celko's book on this subject.  Is it still
> a valid resource, or do CTE's make it obsolete?

Depending on what you actually need, but yes - CTE is the solution,
depending obviously on your schema design...

I think David (Fetter) had some examples in his slides on how to solve
common problems like that in a query.

--
GJ


From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: cultural_sublimation(at)yahoo(dot)com
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Subject: Re: Common table expressions and threaded comments
Date: 2009-04-17 14:24:39
Message-ID: 20469.1239978279@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Cultural Sublimation <cultural_sublimation(at)yahoo(dot)com> writes:
> I need to implement the classical problem of threaded comments in a Postgresql
> database. I know that the upcoming 8.4 release includes Common Table
> Expressions, so I have to ask: is this feature the mother-of-all-solutions
> to the threaded comments problem, or is it still worth investigating ltree?

I don't think you should take CTEs as being the be-all and end-all of
solutions in this area (or any other). In particular I'd be suspicious
about the performance of a CTE-based solution. CTEs are new in 8.4 and
we have done essentially zero optimization work on them. I honestly
doubt if they will be able to match the performance of a single-purpose
solution such as ltree, even after a few years of optimization work.

regards, tom lane


From: Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz <gryzman(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: cultural_sublimation(at)yahoo(dot)com, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Common table expressions and threaded comments
Date: 2009-04-17 22:34:46
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I can only say for my own little experience. Features like that, allow
users to exchange less (none?) data between app and pg.
That's the main advantage of CTE.