Re: Marc: please change defaults on header size limits

Marc,

I've been running into this kind of bounce a lot lately on the various
lists I admin:

Your message to press has been delayed, and requires the approval
of the moderators, for the following reason(s):

The message headers are too large (4442 > 4096)

... it seems like the default limit of 4096 bytes is niggardly for
modern e-mail. Can we raise the default on all MJ lists to something
more realistic, like 16K?

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On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Josh Berkus<josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:

> ... it seems like the default limit of 4096 bytes is niggardly for modern
> e-mail.  Can we raise the default on all MJ lists to something more
> realistic, like 16K?

+1

Another request, that would save me a *lot* of time. Can we allow
someone who is subscribed to one PostgreSQL list, post to any of them?
I end up approving loads of messages which get cross-posted,
especially when they are large threads.

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I could, but I thought there was a specific reason why we decided nto to
last time this was brought up (it has been awhile) ... ease of spammers to
subscribe to one list but hit all, maybe?

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Dave Page wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Josh Berkus<josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> ... it seems like the default limit of 4096 bytes is niggardly for modern
>> e-mail.  Can we raise the default on all MJ lists to something more
>> realistic, like 16K?
>
> +1
>
> Another request, that would save me a *lot* of time. Can we allow
> someone who is subscribed to one PostgreSQL list, post to any of them?
> I end up approving loads of messages which get cross-posted,
> especially when they are large threads.
>
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Dave Page wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Josh Berkus<josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:
>
> > ... it seems like the default limit of 4096 bytes is niggardly for modern
> > e-mail.  Can we raise the default on all MJ lists to something more
> > realistic, like 16K?
>
> +1
>
> Another request, that would save me a *lot* of time. Can we allow
> someone who is subscribed to one PostgreSQL list, post to any of them?
> I end up approving loads of messages which get cross-posted,
> especially when they are large threads.

Note that this is a very easy setting to change: you have to set
"restrict_post" to "GLOBAL:". I agree that this is a very useful
setting.

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PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support

> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Dave Page wrote:

>> Another request, that would save me a *lot* of time. Can we allow
>> someone who is subscribed to one PostgreSQL list, post to any of them?
>> I end up approving loads of messages which get cross-posted,
>> especially when they are large threads.

Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> I could, but I thought there was a specific reason why we decided nto to
> last time this was brought up (it has been awhile) ... ease of spammers
> to subscribe to one list but hit all, maybe?

Maybe we should try and see how it works. I don't remember any
discussion about it last time it was raised.

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Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Dave Page wrote:
>
> >> Another request, that would save me a *lot* of time. Can we allow
> >> someone who is subscribed to one PostgreSQL list, post to any of them?
> >> I end up approving loads of messages which get cross-posted,
> >> especially when they are large threads.
>
> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >
> > I could, but I thought there was a specific reason why we decided nto to
> > last time this was brought up (it has been awhile) ... ease of spammers
> > to subscribe to one list but hit all, maybe?
>
> Maybe we should try and see how it works. I don't remember any
> discussion about it last time it was raised.

Has this been done?

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On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Dave Page wrote:
>>
>>>> Another request, that would save me a *lot* of time. Can we allow
>>>> someone who is subscribed to one PostgreSQL list, post to any of them?
>>>> I end up approving loads of messages which get cross-posted,
>>>> especially when they are large threads.
>>
>> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>>
>>> I could, but I thought there was a specific reason why we decided nto to
>>> last time this was brought up (it has been awhile) ... ease of spammers
>>> to subscribe to one list but hit all, maybe?
>>
>> Maybe we should try and see how it works. I don't remember any
>> discussion about it last time it was raised.
>
> Has this been done?

Yes, several months ago ...

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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Dave Page wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Another request, that would save me a *lot* of time. Can we allow
> >>>> someone who is subscribed to one PostgreSQL list, post to any of them?
> >>>> I end up approving loads of messages which get cross-posted,
> >>>> especially when they are large threads.
> >>
> >> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I could, but I thought there was a specific reason why we decided nto to
> >>> last time this was brought up (it has been awhile) ... ease of spammers
> >>> to subscribe to one list but hit all, maybe?
> >>
> >> Maybe we should try and see how it works. I don't remember any
> >> discussion about it last time it was raised.
> >
> > Has this been done?
>
> Yes, several months ago ...

Marc, when a request is made, I track it, meaning I keep it in my
mailbox until it is complete. Please reply to requests to tell the
group you have completed something so I can stop tracking it. Thanks.

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