Re: Information Week article on PostgreSQL benchmark

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From: Jim Nasby <decibel(at)decibel(dot)org>
To: PostgreSQL List Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Information Week article on PostgreSQL benchmark
Date: 2007-07-20 05:57:27
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"Open Source PostgreSQL Trails Oracle In Benchmark, But Not By Much"
http://www.informationweek.com/windows/showArticle.jhtml?
articleID=201001901
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From: Kaare Rasmussen <kaare(at)jasonic(dot)dk>
To: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Information Week article on PostgreSQL benchmark
Date: 2007-09-01 22:57:57
Message-ID: 200709020057.57766.kaare@jasonic.dk
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Follow-up:

http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201803375

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From: "Jonah H(dot) Harris" <jonah(dot)harris(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Kaare Rasmussen" <kaare(at)jasonic(dot)dk>
Cc: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Information Week article on PostgreSQL benchmark
Date: 2007-09-02 00:57:16
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On 9/1/07, Kaare Rasmussen <kaare(at)jasonic(dot)dk> wrote:
> Follow-up:
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201803375

I only have one thing to say. WTF?

Man, I really wish IT article authors would try and understand what
they're writing about.

First, he says PG will add a debugger for, specifically, Oracle
PL/SQL. Then, in the bulleted list, it says specifically PL/pgSQL;
not the same thing.

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From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: "Jonah H(dot) Harris" <jonah(dot)harris(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Kaare Rasmussen <kaare(at)jasonic(dot)dk>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Information Week article on PostgreSQL benchmark
Date: 2007-09-03 18:13:07
Message-ID: 200709031813.l83ID7401513@momjian.us
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Jonah H. Harris wrote:
> On 9/1/07, Kaare Rasmussen <kaare(at)jasonic(dot)dk> wrote:
> > Follow-up:
> >
> > http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201803375
>
> I only have one thing to say. WTF?
>
> Man, I really wish IT article authors would try and understand what
> they're writing about.
>
> First, he says PG will add a debugger for, specifically, Oracle
> PL/SQL. Then, in the bulleted list, it says specifically PL/pgSQL;
> not the same thing.

Yea, it seems the cleaned-up version is still not fully cleaned up.

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From: David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: "Jonah H(dot) Harris" <jonah(dot)harris(at)gmail(dot)com>, Kaare Rasmussen <kaare(at)jasonic(dot)dk>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Information Week article on PostgreSQL benchmark
Date: 2007-09-03 18:18:16
Message-ID: 20070903181816.GG4464@fetter.org
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On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 02:13:07PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Jonah H. Harris wrote:
> > On 9/1/07, Kaare Rasmussen <kaare(at)jasonic(dot)dk> wrote:
> > > Follow-up:
> > >
> > > http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201803375
> >
> > I only have one thing to say. WTF?
> >
> > Man, I really wish IT article authors would try and understand what
> > they're writing about.
> >
> > First, he says PG will add a debugger for, specifically, Oracle
> > PL/SQL. Then, in the bulleted list, it says specifically PL/pgSQL;
> > not the same thing.
>
> Yea, it seems the cleaned-up version is still not fully cleaned up.

By "not fully cleaned up," do you mean "contains major factual and
conceptual errors in each paragraph?"

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From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Cc: David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, "Jonah H(dot) Harris" <jonah(dot)harris(at)gmail(dot)com>, Kaare Rasmussen <kaare(at)jasonic(dot)dk>
Subject: Re: Information Week article on PostgreSQL benchmark
Date: 2007-09-04 14:31:20
Message-ID: 200709040731.20695.josh@agliodbs.com
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All,

> > > First, he says PG will add a debugger for, specifically, Oracle
> > > PL/SQL. Then, in the bulleted list, it says specifically PL/pgSQL;
> > > not the same thing.
> >
> > Yea, it seems the cleaned-up version is still not fully cleaned up.
>
> By "not fully cleaned up," do you mean "contains major factual and
> conceptual errors in each paragraph?"

Hmmm. Usually Charlie does much better than this. BTW, the features came
from a phone call with me, and I directed Charlie to some online lists.

I've a feeling what happened is that for some reason he waited several days
between asking me to explain the features and running the article (certainly
it was over a week until publication) and lost track of what they were
actually about.

Overall, I really don't see any issue for the community with the article;
people will assume that inaccuracies are Charlie's. What the article
substantially says is that we're going into beta soon, which is good news to
have out there.

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