Re: Copyright question

FYI, I have received permission, below, to remove the Andrew Yu
copyright. Thanks.

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Andrew Yu wrote:
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> This header is originally part of a separate library
> package for dynamic loading on DECstation Ultrix.
> Ultrix did not support dynamic loading natively. (Is
> there really people still using this?)
>
> I'm fine with removing my copyright line on this file.
> cc'ing the mailing lists is also fine.
>
> -andrew
>
> --- Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
>
> > Andrew, long time, no talk.
> >
> > We have found that the PostgreSQL file
> > src/backend/port/dynloader/ultrix4.h contains your
> > personal copyright
> > of:
> >
> > * Copyright (c) 1993 Andrew K. Yu,
> > University of California at Berkeley
> > * All rights reserved.
> > ... BSD copyright text follows
> >
> > Can we remove that line and keep only the Berkely
> > and PostgreSQL Global
> > Development Group copyright lines? If you agree,
> > can I CC a reply to
> > you on the public PostgreSQL lists so there is an
> > official record of
> > this?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
> > http://momjian.us
> > EnterpriseDB
> > http://www.enterprisedb.com
> >
> > + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your
> > backup. +
> >

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Bruce Momjian wrote:
> FYI, I have received permission, below, to remove the Andrew Yu
> copyright. Thanks.
>

Can't we just remove the file outright? The last release of Ultrix was
in 1995.

-Neil

Neil Conway wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > FYI, I have received permission, below, to remove the Andrew Yu
> > copyright. Thanks.
> >
>
> Can't we just remove the file outright? The last release of Ultrix was
> in 1995.

Yea, but that was the easy one because I already knew the author and had
his recent email address.

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On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 07:31:20PM -0400, Neil Conway wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >FYI, I have received permission, below, to remove the Andrew Yu
> >copyright. Thanks.
>
> Can't we just remove the file outright? The last release of Ultrix
> was in 1995.

Sadly, in the US, at least, and so that file, absent sweeping changes
in the law, will remain outside the public domain until slightly after
the first human-crewed starship departs our solar system.

If you want things to go back into the public domain after a limited
period of time, make sure you hold your legislators to account,
especially when Disney is lobbying them.

Cheers,
D
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David Fetter wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 07:31:20PM -0400, Neil Conway wrote:
>> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>> FYI, I have received permission, below, to remove the Andrew Yu
>>> copyright. Thanks.
>> Can't we just remove the file outright? The last release of Ultrix
>> was in 1995.
>
> Sadly, in the US, at least, and so that file, absent sweeping changes
> in the law, will remain outside the public domain until slightly after
> the first human-crewed starship departs our solar system.

Hardly, we will have populated at least 3 solar systems by then.

>
> If you want things to go back into the public domain after a limited
> period of time, make sure you hold your legislators to account,
> especially when Disney is lobbying them.
>
> Cheers,
> D

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Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> David Fetter wrote:
>>
>> Sadly, in the US, at least, and so that file, absent sweeping changes
>> in the law, will remain outside the public domain until slightly after
>> the first human-crewed starship departs our solar system.
>
> Hardly, we will have populated at least 3 solar systems by then.
>

What do you mean "will have"? I'm sure I have offspring somewhere out
near Alpha Centauri (met this cute alien in a bar one night ...)

cheers

andrew

David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org> writes:
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 07:31:20PM -0400, Neil Conway wrote:
>> Can't we just remove the file outright? The last release of Ultrix
>> was in 1995.

> Sadly, in the US, at least, and so that file, absent sweeping changes
> in the law, will remain outside the public domain until slightly after
> the first human-crewed starship departs our solar system.

No, Neil's point was that we could stop supporting Ultrix and remove
this file (along with the rest of the Ultrix port support).

regards, tom lane