Need help on drivers, add-ons

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From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 03:32:15
Message-ID: 200504272032.15365.josh@agliodbs.com
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Folks,

For a variety of projects, I'm trying to assemble a list of "currently
essential" add-ons to PostgreSQL. However, I'm starting to have sympathy
for PG newbies; as a core team member I can't figure a lot of this out. For
example:

Which C++ driver is most current?
Which python driver is the most full-featured?

But getting to the point is:

What PostgreSQL add-ons do you think are essential for at least 50% of
potential users?

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco


From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 03:35:43
Message-ID: 200504280335.j3S3ZhQ23829@candle.pha.pa.us
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Josh Berkus wrote:
> Folks,
>
> For a variety of projects, I'm trying to assemble a list of "currently
> essential" add-ons to PostgreSQL. However, I'm starting to have sympathy
> for PG newbies; as a core team member I can't figure a lot of this out. For
> example:
>
> Which C++ driver is most current?
> Which python driver is the most full-featured?
>
> But getting to the point is:
>
> What PostgreSQL add-ons do you think are essential for at least 50% of
> potential users?

And why do we have both gborg and pgfoundry?

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From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 03:43:18
Message-ID: 20050428004239.G32711@ganymede.hub.org
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Which python driver is the most full-featured?

Depends on who you talk to ... there are two drivers under active
development, I believe, with different priorities ...

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From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 03:48:20
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Josh Berkus wrote:
> Folks,
>
> For a variety of projects, I'm trying to assemble a list of "currently
> essential" add-ons to PostgreSQL. However, I'm starting to have sympathy
> for PG newbies; as a core team member I can't figure a lot of this out. For
> example:
>
> Which C++ driver is most current?

libpqxx

> Which python driver is the most full-featured?

psycopg

>
> But getting to the point is:
>
> What PostgreSQL add-ons do you think are essential for at least 50% of
> potential users?

npgsql
odbc
jdbc

>

--
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From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 03:48:55
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>>What PostgreSQL add-ons do you think are essential for at least 50% of
>>potential users?
>
>
> And why do we have both gborg and pgfoundry?

Well to be fair, we are working on that ;)

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

>

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From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 03:54:31
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Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> >>What PostgreSQL add-ons do you think are essential for at least 50% of
> >>potential users?
> >
> >
> > And why do we have both gborg and pgfoundry?
>
> Well to be fair, we are working on that ;)

Uh, how long have we had two and what is the timeframe for merging them?

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pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us | (610) 359-1001
+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
+ Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073


From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 03:58:39
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Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
>>>>What PostgreSQL add-ons do you think are essential for at least 50% of
>>>>potential users?
>>>
>>>
>>>And why do we have both gborg and pgfoundry?
>>
>>Well to be fair, we are working on that ;)
>
>
> Uh, how long have we had two and what is the timeframe for merging them?

A long time, and the timeframe is long :) but it is happening.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

>

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From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 04:01:06
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Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >
> >>>>What PostgreSQL add-ons do you think are essential for at least 50% of
> >>>>potential users?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>And why do we have both gborg and pgfoundry?
> >>
> >>Well to be fair, we are working on that ;)
> >
> >
> > Uh, how long have we had two and what is the timeframe for merging them?
>
> A long time, and the timeframe is long :) but it is happening.

Well, the big question is why did we create a new site if we didn't have
time to complete the migration in a prompt manner?

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pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us | (610) 359-1001
+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
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From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 04:08:13
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> Well, the big question is why did we create a new site if we didn't have
> time to complete the migration in a prompt manner?

Your welcome to jump in and help any time Bruce. We are getting ready to
bring up a new pgFoundry server. I expect once that is done a lot of
migration will begin to ramp up. You could also check the archives
about the discussions of pgFoundry -> Gborg.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake
Command Prompt, Inc.

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From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 04:14:17
Message-ID: 200504272114.18090.josh@agliodbs.com
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Bruce,

> Well, the big question is why did we create a new site if we didn't have
> time to complete the migration in a prompt manner?

Because we underestimated the time it would take to install and troubleshoot
GForge and thus ran out of time to do migrations? Because the spring we
installed GForge hub.org had unforseeable network issues that occupied our
time?

Really, Bruce. If you know someone champing at the bit to help us migrate
stuff, turn them loose.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco


From: Jeff <threshar(at)torgo(dot)978(dot)org>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 12:00:54
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On Apr 27, 2005, at 11:32 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:

> What PostgreSQL add-ons do you think are essential for at least 50% of
> potential users?
>

DBD::Pg

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From: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 14:40:10
Message-ID: 200504281040.10164.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net
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On Thursday 28 April 2005 00:14, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> > Well, the big question is why did we create a new site if we didn't have
> > time to complete the migration in a prompt manner?
>
> Because we underestimated the time it would take to install and
> troubleshoot GForge and thus ran out of time to do migrations? Because the
> spring we installed GForge hub.org had unforseeable network issues that
> occupied our time?
>
> Really, Bruce. If you know someone champing at the bit to help us migrate
> stuff, turn them loose.

I am just working through website stuff waiting for the new server to be
brought up, but once it is I'm willing (planning?) to focus on getting that
migration done.

--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL


From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-28 17:13:17
Message-ID: 200504281013.17751.josh@agliodbs.com
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Robert,

> I am just working through website stuff waiting for the new server to be
> brought up, but once it is I'm willing (planning?) to focus on getting that
> migration done.

Keen. Will chat with you on IRC.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco


From: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Need help on drivers, add-ons
Date: 2005-04-29 15:17:34
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On Thursday 28 April 2005 08:00, Jeff wrote:
> On Apr 27, 2005, at 11:32 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > What PostgreSQL add-ons do you think are essential for at least 50% of
> > potential users?
>

Surprised no one mentioned PgAdmin. Everyone wants a nice GUI interface for
maintaining the server. (Ok, not everyone, but a good 50% I bet)

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Robert Treat
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