Re: Multi ordered select and indexing

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From: "Antal Attila" <antal(dot)attila(at)ritek(dot)hu>
To: <pgsql-sql(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Multi ordered select and indexing
Date: 2004-04-23 14:33:14
Message-ID: 000301c4293f$ebf6b930$0b02010a@atesz
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Hi!

We have a complex problematic area. What is the simplest solution for
the next query type:

SELECT * FROM tablename ORDER BY col1 ASC, col2 DESC;

In our experience, postgres cannot use a multi-colum index on (col1,
col2) in this situation, becouse there are different directions after
ORDER BY. Is custom operator class the easiest solution, which can solve
the reverse indexing on col2? Our problem with this solution, is that we
have to replace "DESC" with "USING myoperator". Is it possible, that
postgres can recognize "myoperator" without replacing "DESC"?
We made new operators on int4 type starting with letter "/":

CREATE OPERATOR CLASS int4_reverse_order_ops
FOR TYPE int4 USING btree AS
OPERATOR 1 /< ,
OPERATOR 2 /<= ,
OPERATOR 3 /= ,
OPERATOR 4 />= ,
OPERATOR 5 /> ,
FUNCTION 1 int4_reverse_order_cmp(int4, int4);

Create an index:
CREATE INDEX idx_test ON tablename (col1, col2
int4_reverse_order_ops);

Postgres can use this index in this query:
EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM tablename ORDER BY col1 ASC, col2 USING /< limit
10;
QUERY PLAN
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
Limit (cost=0.00..0.52 rows=10 width=8)
-> Index Scan using idx_test on tablename (cost=0.00..52.00
rows=1000 width=8)

An other problem: we have to replace the operators after the WHERE
conditions, if that contains conditions on col2.
EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM tablename WHERE col1 < 10 and col2 < 10 ORDER BY
col1, col2 using /< limit 10;
QUERY PLAN
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
Limit (cost=0.00..4.14 rows=10 width=8)
-> Index Scan using idx_test on tablename (cost=0.00..46.33
rows=112 width=8)
Index Cond: (col1 < 10)
Filter: (col2 < 10)

You can see, it use filtering on col2, but in the next case it can
indexing on col2 condition:
EXPLAIN SELECT * FROM tablename WHERE col1 < 10 and col2 /< 10 ORDER BY
col1, col2 using /< limit 10;
QUERY PLAN
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
Limit (cost=0.00..3.82 rows=10 width=8)
-> Index Scan using idx_test on tablename (cost=0.00..42.78
rows=112 width=8)
Index Cond: ((col1 < 10) AND (col2 /< 10))

Can we do this easier? If can, how?

After that, we have an other unsolved problem, if the col2's type is
TEXT, and we try to use a LIKE operator on it. But we coludn't replace
the LIKE with own operator, because postgres exchange the "LIKE" with an
expression which contains ">=" and "<". We made own like operator:
"/~~", but we cannot tell postgres to use our own "/>=" and '/<'
operators instead of "/~~".
CREATE OPERATOR /~~ (
leftarg = text, rightarg = text, procedure = textlike,
commutator = /~~ , negator = !~~ ,
restrict = scalarltsel, join = scalarltjoinsel
);

Thanks in advance.


From: Stephan Szabo <sszabo(at)megazone(dot)bigpanda(dot)com>
To: Antal Attila <antal(dot)attila(at)ritek(dot)hu>
Cc: pgsql-sql(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Multi ordered select and indexing
Date: 2004-04-23 16:41:21
Message-ID: 20040423093937.B17459@megazone.bigpanda.com
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Antal Attila wrote:

> Hi!
>
> We have a complex problematic area. What is the simplest solution for
> the next query type:
>
> SELECT * FROM tablename ORDER BY col1 ASC, col2 DESC;
>
> In our experience, postgres cannot use a multi-colum index on (col1,
> col2) in this situation, becouse there are different directions after
> ORDER BY. Is custom operator class the easiest solution, which can solve
> the reverse indexing on col2? Our problem with this solution, is that we
> have to replace "DESC" with "USING myoperator". Is it possible, that
> postgres can recognize "myoperator" without replacing "DESC"?

Yes. You should be able to make an opclass where the operators are the
standard operators but in a different order which should get used when
doing DESC. I think there should be examples in the archives.


From: Bruno Wolff III <bruno(at)wolff(dot)to>
To: Antal Attila <antal(dot)attila(at)ritek(dot)hu>
Cc: pgsql-sql(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Multi ordered select and indexing
Date: 2004-04-23 17:37:16
Message-ID: 20040423173716.GA7767@wolff.to
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On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 16:33:14 +0200,
Antal Attila <antal(dot)attila(at)ritek(dot)hu> wrote:
>
> In our experience, postgres cannot use a multi-colum index on (col1,
> col2) in this situation, becouse there are different directions after
> ORDER BY. Is custom operator class the easiest solution, which can solve
> the reverse indexing on col2? Our problem with this solution, is that we
> have to replace "DESC" with "USING myoperator". Is it possible, that
> postgres can recognize "myoperator" without replacing "DESC"?

Another option you might have is using functional indexes. If you are using
7.4.x or greater and one of the columns has a reasonable - operator
(pretty much this is the numeric types) then you can have an index on
(col1, (-col2)) and then order by col1, -col2.

The main advantage is that this is simpler than making a new opclass.
If you have already gone to that trouble it may be better to stick with it.