Re: Best open source db poll currently

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From: Bruno Baguette <pgsql-ml(at)baguette(dot)net>
To: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Best open source db poll currently
Date: 2004-03-30 07:40:02
Message-ID: 40692452.1040909@baguette.net
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Hello,

I noticed a best open source db poll on http://www.casestudio.com (left
column) where PostgreSQL is the latest currently ! :-(

So, just go on that site and vote for your favorite Open Source database
system ! :-)

Best regards,

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From: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
To: Bruno Baguette <pgsql-ml(at)baguette(dot)net>
Cc: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Best open source db poll currently
Date: 2004-03-30 13:22:27
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I have to wonder if there's been some ballot stuffing on the part of
maxsql folks, since case studio only started supporting them in January
IIRC. As an aside, I use this software and it's PostgreSQL support is
pretty good, and the company itself is pretty responsive.

Robert Treat

On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 02:40, Bruno Baguette wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I noticed a best open source db poll on http://www.casestudio.com (left
> column) where PostgreSQL is the latest currently ! :-(
>
> So, just go on that site and vote for your favorite Open Source database
> system ! :-)
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Bruno Baguette - pgsql-ml(at)baguette(dot)net
>
>
>
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From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Bruno Baguette <pgsql-ml(at)baguette(dot)net>
Cc: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Best open source db poll currently
Date: 2004-03-30 14:13:26
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MaxDB - 62%
PostgreSQL - 13%

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Bruno Baguette wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I noticed a best open source db poll on http://www.casestudio.com (left
> column) where PostgreSQL is the latest currently ! :-(
>
> So, just go on that site and vote for your favorite Open Source database
> system ! :-)
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Bruno Baguette - pgsql-ml(at)baguette(dot)net
>
>
>
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From: Christopher Browne <cbbrowne(at)acm(dot)org>
To: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Best open source db poll currently
Date: 2004-03-30 22:53:02
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Clinging to sanity, xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net (Robert Treat) mumbled into her beard:
> I have to wonder if there's been some ballot stuffing on the part of
> maxsql folks, since case studio only started supporting them in
> January IIRC. As an aside, I use this software and it's PostgreSQL
> support is pretty good, and the company itself is pretty responsive.

These sorts of polls are _always_ prone to ballot stuffing.

When PostgreSQL "won" the O'Really one (intentional misspelling :-)),
that was a result of "stuffing." Firebird's high showing on that one
was surely also due to ballot stuffing.

What is interesting about this one is that it demonstrates some sort
of change; in the past, I would have expected MySQL(tm) fans to stuff
in favor of that, as they are doubtless more numerous than MaxDB(tm)
fans.

The interesting question: Could this be the beginning of the
deprecation process of MySQL(tm)?

(Trademark Attribution: MySQL and MaxDB are registered trademarks of
MySQL AB in the United States, European Union and other countries.)
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From: Martin Marques <martin(at)bugs(dot)unl(dot)edu(dot)ar>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Bruno Baguette <pgsql-ml(at)baguette(dot)net>
Cc: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Best open source db poll currently
Date: 2004-03-31 18:49:53
Message-ID: 200403311549.53714.martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar
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El Mar 30 Mar 2004 11:13, Marc G. Fournier escribió:
> MaxDB - 62%
> PostgreSQL - 13%

If you throw this to the pgsql-general list that 13% will blow up, showing how
stupid this polls are.

>
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Bruno Baguette wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I noticed a best open source db poll on http://www.casestudio.com (left
> > column) where PostgreSQL is the latest currently ! :-(
> >
> > So, just go on that site and vote for your favorite Open Source database
> > system ! :-)

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From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Martin Marques <martin(at)bugs(dot)unl(dot)edu(dot)ar>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Bruno Baguette <pgsql-ml(at)baguette(dot)net>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Best open source db poll currently
Date: 2004-03-31 19:09:05
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Done :)

Guys ... poll now shows 53% for MaxDB (ie. MySQL) and 15% for PostgreSQL
... think we can improve on that? :)

http://www.casestudio.com

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Martin Marques wrote:

> El Mar 30 Mar 2004 11:13, Marc G. Fournier escribió:
> > MaxDB - 62%
> > PostgreSQL - 13%
>
> If you throw this to the pgsql-general list that 13% will blow up, showing how
> stupid this polls are.
>
> >
> > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Bruno Baguette wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I noticed a best open source db poll on http://www.casestudio.com (left
> > > column) where PostgreSQL is the latest currently ! :-(
> > >
> > > So, just go on that site and vote for your favorite Open Source database
> > > system ! :-)
>
> --
> 15:47:02 up 22 days, 20:15, 2 users, load average: 0.28, 0.69, 0.46
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
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> Centro de Telematica | DBA, Programador, Administrador
> Universidad Nacional
> del Litoral
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

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From: Bernard Clement <bernard(at)info-electronics(dot)com>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Martin Marques <martin(at)bugs(dot)unl(dot)edu(dot)ar>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Bruno Baguette <pgsql-ml(at)baguette(dot)net>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Best open source db poll currently
Date: 2004-03-31 21:20:46
Message-ID: 200403311620.46832.bernard@info-electronics.com
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Done too :)

Hum! IMHO not so many people because when I click PG went from 16% to 17%
immediately.

Bernard

On Wednesday 31 March 2004 14:09, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> Done :)
>
> Guys ... poll now shows 53% for MaxDB (ie. MySQL) and 15% for PostgreSQL
> ... think we can improve on that? :)
>
> http://www.casestudio.com
>
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Martin Marques wrote:
> > El Mar 30 Mar 2004 11:13, Marc G. Fournier escribió:
> > > MaxDB - 62%
> > > PostgreSQL - 13%
> >
> > If you throw this to the pgsql-general list that 13% will blow up,
> > showing how stupid this polls are.
> >
> > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Bruno Baguette wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I noticed a best open source db poll on http://www.casestudio.com
> > > > (left column) where PostgreSQL is the latest currently ! :-(
> > > >
> > > > So, just go on that site and vote for your favorite Open Source
> > > > database system ! :-)
> >
> > --
> > 15:47:02 up 22 days, 20:15, 2 users, load average: 0.28, 0.69, 0.46
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Centro de Telematica | DBA, Programador, Administrador
> > Universidad Nacional
> > del Litoral
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From: Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: Bruno Baguette <pgsql-ml(at)baguette(dot)net>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org, Martin Marques <martin(at)bugs(dot)unl(dot)edu(dot)ar>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Best open source db poll currently
Date: 2004-03-31 23:13:37
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On 31-Mar-04, at 2:09 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> Done :)
>
> Guys ... poll now shows 53% for MaxDB (ie. MySQL) and 15% for
> PostgreSQL
> ... think we can improve on that? :)

Can we please stop wasting time on things like this? I think most
people agree these polls are a complete waste of time.

(Not to mention that posting about the poll to -advocacy totally
invalidates the polling sample anyway.)

-Neil


From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Bruno Baguette <pgsql-ml(at)baguette(dot)net>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org, Martin Marques <martin(at)bugs(dot)unl(dot)edu(dot)ar>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Best open source db poll currently
Date: 2004-04-01 03:27:56
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Neil Conway wrote:

> On 31-Mar-04, at 2:09 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > Done :)
> >
> > Guys ... poll now shows 53% for MaxDB (ie. MySQL) and 15% for
> > PostgreSQL
> > ... think we can improve on that? :)
>
> Can we please stop wasting time on things like this?

Nope ...

> I think most people agree these polls are a complete waste of time.

Yup ...

> (Not to mention that posting about the poll to -advocacy totally
> invalidates the polling sample anyway.)

How so?

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From: Bruno LEVEQUE <bruno(dot)leveque(at)net6d(dot)com>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: Martin Marques <martin(at)bugs(dot)unl(dot)edu(dot)ar>, Bruno Baguette <pgsql-ml(at)baguette(dot)net>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Best open source db poll currently
Date: 2004-04-01 07:35:52
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.58.0404010933220.19888@moissac.leveque.fr
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Hi,

Be careful, It seems that only 12 click needs to add a percent !!
So It is not significative !

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

>
> Done :)
>
> Guys ... poll now shows 53% for MaxDB (ie. MySQL) and 15% for PostgreSQL
> ... think we can improve on that? :)
>
> http://www.casestudio.com
>
>
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Martin Marques wrote:
>
> > El Mar 30 Mar 2004 11:13, Marc G. Fournier escribió:
> > > MaxDB - 62%
> > > PostgreSQL - 13%
> >
> > If you throw this to the pgsql-general list that 13% will blow up, showing how
> > stupid this polls are.
> >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Bruno Baguette wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I noticed a best open source db poll on http://www.casestudio.com (left
> > > > column) where PostgreSQL is the latest currently ! :-(
> > > >
> > > > So, just go on that site and vote for your favorite Open Source database
> > > > system ! :-)
> >
> > --
> > 15:47:02 up 22 days, 20:15, 2 users, load average: 0.28, 0.69, 0.46
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Martín Marqués | select 'mmarques' || '@' || 'unl.edu.ar'
> > Centro de Telematica | DBA, Programador, Administrador
> > Universidad Nacional
> > del Litoral
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
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