Re: On pgweb project (Re: Update on 'portal' changes)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexey Borzov [mailto:borz_off(at)cs(dot)msu(dot)su]
> Sent: 08 March 2004 17:03
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Update on 'portal' changes
>
>
> Speaking of which, what is the real reason for keeping the
> current website and the "next-generation" one in one project?
>
> Maybe a better approach would be to register a separate
> project for the next-generation website (I think this was
> already proposed here)?

Because the project is for all the websites, not just the one you are
working on.

We *have* created a separate CVS module which should be more than enough
segregation.

Regards, Dave.

Hi!

Dave Page wrote:
>>Speaking of which, what is the real reason for keeping the
>>current website and the "next-generation" one in one project?
>>
>>Maybe a better approach would be to register a separate
>>project for the next-generation website (I think this was
>>already proposed here)?
>
> Because the project is for all the websites, not just the one you are
> working on.

OK, let's paraphrase: what is the reason for having one project for all websites
instead of one project per website? I got the impression that *different*
developers work on different websites...

> We *have* created a separate CVS module which should be more than enough
> segregation.

Can CVS write access be given for this module only?

Alexey,

> OK, let's paraphrase: what is the reason for having one project for all
websites
> instead of one project per website? I got the impression that *different*
> developers work on different websites...

Well, GForge/GBorg is seperate. Techdocs should be generated by Bricolage.
PGFoundation is apparently going to be seperate. Advocacy should be going
away as soon as the foundation gets its act together. General Bits is
hosted & adminned by Elein.

What else is there?

--
-Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Hi!

Josh Berkus wrote:
>>OK, let's paraphrase: what is the reason for having one project for all
>
> websites
>
>>instead of one project per website? I got the impression that *different*
>>developers work on different websites...
>
>
> Well, GForge/GBorg is seperate. Techdocs should be generated by Bricolage.
> PGFoundation is apparently going to be seperate. Advocacy should be going
> away as soon as the foundation gets its act together. General Bits is
> hosted & adminned by Elein.
>
> What else is there?

Well, currently pgweb project has "This project is the development home of the
PostgreSQL website, www.postgresql.org" as description, but its CVS has
directories for current www.postgresql.org (www), techdocs, advocacy and dir for
a "new" postgresql.org (portal).

I'd rather work on the "new" code in a separate project, where there would be no
problems related to giving me CVS access to current code and where it would be
possible to use available issue trackers.

BTW, why doesn't gborg accept new members?
http://gborg.postgresql.org/member/memjoin.php

Alexey,

> BTW, why doesn't gborg accept new members?
> http://gborg.postgresql.org/member/memjoin.php

Ooops! This was temporary while we were copying users to the new PGFoundry;
it needs to be turned back to regular with a warning.

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-Josh Berkus

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I'll echo the 'Ooops!'. Turned back on. Any suggestions about what
the message should be? Additionally project submissions were disabled.
Should these be turned back on as well?

Chris Ryan

--- Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:
> Alexey,
>
> > BTW, why doesn't gborg accept new members?
> > http://gborg.postgresql.org/member/memjoin.php
>
> Ooops! This was temporary while we were copying users to the new
> PGFoundry;
> it needs to be turned back to regular with a warning.
>
> --
> -Josh Berkus
>
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Chris,

> I'll echo the 'Ooops!'. Turned back on. Any suggestions about what
> the message should be? Additionally project submissions were disabled.
> Should these be turned back on as well?

No, I think new projects should say:

"We are currently planning on migrating from GBorg to a new development
platform. We expect to have the new site online in about a week. Please
hold your new project idea until then. Contact josh (at) postgresql (dot)
org for more information if you need it."

The new warning on GBorg members should wait until pgFoundry is live, and then
say:

WARNING: members who join GBorg at this point will have to join pgFoundry
seperately.

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-Josh Berkus

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and non-profit organizations. San Francisco

On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 12:45, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Alexey,
>
> > OK, let's paraphrase: what is the reason for having one project for all
> websites
> > instead of one project per website? I got the impression that *different*
> > developers work on different websites...
>
> Well, GForge/GBorg is seperate. Techdocs should be generated by Bricolage.

speaking of do you have a status update on that? a couple of weeks back
i mentioned doing an overhaul to the techdocs code in cvs and you said
not to bother since it was going away... well, it's still there, so can
I push forward with my cvs changes or are you pretty close to being
done?

> PGFoundation is apparently going to be seperate. Advocacy should be going
> away as soon as the foundation gets its act together.

Actually Advocacy is waiting on the next generation portal stuff... not
the foundation stuff.

General Bits is
> hosted & adminned by Elein.
>

And it's a completely separate and independent site from the PostgreSQL
web teams sites... kind of like the plpgsql cookbook and oleg and
teodors fts search site.

> What else is there?
>

"developer" which many are hoping to fold back into the main site once
the next generation portal is done.

not to mention "archives" and search.... both of which should probably
be put under cvs at some point...

Robert Treat
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