Re: [HACKERS] Commercial binary support?

Josh, Hans, et. al.

Please take this thread OFF LIST IMMEDIATELY.

Its content is no longer appropriate for the Hackers mailing list, and we get
enough traffic. Flamewars are not a part of our community.

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Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Josh Berkus wrote:
> Josh, Hans, et. al.
>
> Please take this thread OFF LIST IMMEDIATELY.
>
> Its content is no longer appropriate for the Hackers mailing list, and we get
> enough traffic. Flamewars are not a part of our community.

[ Moved to advocacy.]

Let me try to get this discussion on the right track. Joshua Drake is
saying some companies want a commercial version of PostgreSQL so they
have someone to support it, while Hans is saying that makes it sound
like Command Prompt is the only one supporting PostgreSQL.

Hans, I don't see Josh Drake saying that having a commercial release of
PostgreSQL is _required_ for a company to support PostgreSQL. In fact,
he supports source installs of PostgreSQL too. He is only saying that
some people prefer a commercial version of PostgreSQL because they
_think_ they will get better support. I know that might not make sense,
but open source is new to lots of people so maybe it makes them more
comfortable. In fact, if you go into a site and install PostgreSQL,
they might think you are installing _your_ version of PostgreSQL, while
in fact is it the source version of PostgreSQL.

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Hans, Josh,

>
> Please take this thread OFF LIST IMMEDIATELY.
>

Sorry. Not enough coffee this AM -- should know better than to send e-mail
when I'm short beans.

Overreacted a bit, there. Apologies.

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-Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Josh Berkus wrote:
>> Josh, Hans, et. al.
>>
>> Please take this thread OFF LIST IMMEDIATELY.
>>
>> Its content is no longer appropriate for the Hackers mailing list, and we get
>> enough traffic. Flamewars are not a part of our community.
>
> [ Moved to advocacy.]
>
> Let me try to get this discussion on the right track. Joshua Drake is
> saying some companies want a commercial version of PostgreSQL so they
> have someone to support it, while Hans is saying that makes it sound
> like Command Prompt is the only one supporting PostgreSQL.
>
> Hans, I don't see Josh Drake saying that having a commercial release of
> PostgreSQL is _required_ for a company to support PostgreSQL. In fact,
> he supports source installs of PostgreSQL too. He is only saying that
> some people prefer a commercial version of PostgreSQL because they
> _think_ they will get better support. I know that might not make sense,
> but open source is new to lots of people so maybe it makes them more
> comfortable. In fact, if you go into a site and install PostgreSQL,
> they might think you are installing _your_ version of PostgreSQL, while
> in fact is it the source version of PostgreSQL.
>

I think you missed the "liability" part of Joshua Drake's mail.

Using a binary installation provided by the company you have a support
contract with leaves much less room for discussions about "what is
supported". What "product liability" is someone talking about if he
never bought any product?

Jan

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Jan Wieck wrote:
> I think you missed the "liability" part of Joshua Drake's mail.
>
> Using a binary installation provided by the company you have a support
> contract with leaves much less room for discussions about "what is
> supported". What "product liability" is someone talking about if he
> never bought any product?

Hey buys suport for "libability". Sure, he didn't buy a product, but
you can buy a product without support too, or buy support for something
that isn't a purchased product (home heater service contract).

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