Re: Open Sourcing pgManage

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From: "Dave Page" <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>
To: "Andrew Dunstan" <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, "PostgreSQL-development" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Open Sourcing pgManage
Date: 2003-11-05 08:38:40
Message-ID: 03AF4E498C591348A42FC93DEA9661B84C5D0D@mail.vale-housing.co.uk
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Dunstan [mailto:andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net]
> Sent: 05 November 2003 00:53
> To: PostgreSQL-development
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage
>
>
>
> Andreas Pflug wrote:
> > pgAdmin is designed for a good interactive experience, which isn't
> > achievable using web technologies. SSL connection is
> supported, so on
> > not-too-slow lines remote usage should be possible without security
> > issues, or over a VPN (I'm working like this).
> > For web access, phpPGadmin should be usable; haven't tried so far.
> >
>
> I don't think any of this contradicts what Marc said.

Maybe not, but you can easily run pgAdmin remotely over X if you have a
need to run it locally on a remote server. I've done so a number of
times and found it quite usable on my cheapo DSL line at home.

> And, as Joshua pointed out it could with some work be made to
> run as an applet, which would be very cool for, say, an ISP
> to provide (nothing at all required for the user to install).

Yeah, I agree X is not a solution to that. phpPgAdmin is though...

> Don't get me wrong - pgadmin is cool - I especially recommend
> it to my Windows oriented clients and colleagues who hate
> using command lines.

Why not your Linux or FreeBSD oriented colleagues? It runs just as well
on those platforms.

Regards, Dave.


From: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>
To: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Open Sourcing pgManage
Date: 2003-11-05 12:48:00
Message-ID: 3FA8F180.7050506@dunslane.net
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Dave Page wrote:

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Andrew Dunstan [mailto:andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net]
>>
>>

>>Don't get me wrong - pgadmin is cool - I especially recommend
>>it to my Windows oriented clients and colleagues who hate
>>using command lines.
>>
>>
>
>Why not your Linux or FreeBSD oriented colleagues? It runs just as well
>on those platforms.
>
>
>

"especially" != "only"

:-)

I have it installed on the RH9 machine I use for development, and
happily show it to people there.

most *nix people I come into contact with are old fossils like me who
prefer scripts and command lines for doing things. I don't use an IDE
(unless you count emacs as an IDE) for development, and I rarely use
control-panel-like apps.

BTW, pgadmin could improve its Linux coverage somewhat by a) providing
RPMs for versions of RedHat before 9, or at least providing SRPMs that
can be built on such platforms, and b) getting pgadmin included in the
fedora package set.

Anyway, CommandPrompt have apparently done something cool and they are
donating it and we should all be happy, no? :-)

cheers

andrew