Re: MySQL and RHDB news; 8.0 troll

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From: "Ned Lilly" <ned(at)nedscape(dot)com>
To: "PostgreSQL Advocacy" <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: MySQL and RHDB news; 8.0 troll
Date: 2003-04-14 16:09:00
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Some interesting MySQL news here:

http://news.com.com/2100-1012-996434.html

... and for those who weren't aware, this from Patrick Macdonald on the RHDB mailing list:

> The Red Hat Database product was end-of-life'd last year and is no
> longer supported by Red Hat. However, questions and concerns are
> still addressed by the development team at rhdb(at)sources(dot)redhat(dot)com(dot)
>
> The former RHDB development team is currently working on the
> PostgreSQL - Red Hat Edition project.

This brings me back to the oft-discussed question of marketing. If PITR, Win32, and some basic M-S replication are still on tap for 7.4, I think that more than qualifies as a major version bump. And I humbly submit that the sometimes-complacent tech press who continues to write about MySQL as if it were a real RDBMS might be more interested in version 8.0 as a Major Step Forward For PostgreSQL - along the lines of the coverage 7.0 got.

Cheers,
Ned


From: Sean Chittenden <sean(at)chittenden(dot)org>
To: Ned Lilly <ned(at)nedscape(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: MySQL and RHDB news; 8.0 troll
Date: 2003-04-14 18:46:39
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> Some interesting MySQL news here:
>
> http://news.com.com/2100-1012-996434.html

While I may be a UNIX gear-head, I found this quote interesting and
should be encouraging to the PostgreSQL Win32 developers:

"What's more, the company said, downloads of Microsoft versions of
MySQL outnumber Linux versions by at least four to one."

-sc

--
Sean Chittenden


From: "Jay O'Connor" <joconnor(at)cybermesa(dot)com>
To: Sean Chittenden <sean(at)chittenden(dot)org>, Ned Lilly <ned(at)nedscape(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: MySQL and RHDB news; 8.0 troll
Date: 2003-04-14 18:49:11
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At 11:46 AM 04/14/2003 -0700, Sean Chittenden wrote:
>> Some interesting MySQL news here:
>>
>> http://news.com.com/2100-1012-996434.html
>
>While I may be a UNIX gear-head, I found this quote interesting and
>should be encouraging to the PostgreSQL Win32 developers:
>
>"What's more, the company said, downloads of Microsoft versions of
>MySQL outnumber Linux versions by at least four to one."

Well that's not suprising considering

a) What's (not) available in the MySQL price/performance space on Windows
b) MySQL already comes on many Linux install CDs so you only need to
download when the available version of the web is sufficienly ahead of the
version on yuor install CD

Take care,
Jay


From: Doug McNaught <doug(at)mcnaught(dot)org>
To: Sean Chittenden <sean(at)chittenden(dot)org>
Cc: Ned Lilly <ned(at)nedscape(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: MySQL and RHDB news; 8.0 troll
Date: 2003-04-14 18:57:47
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Sean Chittenden <sean(at)chittenden(dot)org> writes:

> While I may be a UNIX gear-head, I found this quote interesting and
> should be encouraging to the PostgreSQL Win32 developers:
>
> "What's more, the company said, downloads of Microsoft versions of
> MySQL outnumber Linux versions by at least four to one."

That may be partly because MySQL is included in Red Hat and most other
distributions (as is PG)--people are much less likely to download it
from mysql.com unless they need the latest version for some reason.

-Doug


From: "Michael Paesold" <mpaesold(at)gmx(dot)at>
To: "Ned Lilly" <ned(at)nedscape(dot)com>, "PostgreSQL Advocacy" <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: MySQL and RHDB news; 8.0 troll
Date: 2003-04-15 08:13:23
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Ned Lilly wrote:
> Some interesting MySQL news here:
>
> http://news.com.com/2100-1012-996434.html

What I find most interesting is this bit of information:
"What's more, the company said, downloads of Microsoft versions of MySQL
outnumber Linux versions by at least four to one."

I believe a working win32 port will increase pg's popularity much. Not
because that's our intended main market, but because of all the windows guys
who will just try the database on their laptop or desktop first -- and then
be amazed by postgres' capabilities.

Regards,
Michael Paesold