From: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, PostgreSQL Developers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se> |
Subject: | Re: Online enabling of checksums |
Date: | 2018-02-24 02:34:01 |
Message-ID: | f0d99fda-1c30-64d5-3677-d20ece233e86@2ndquadrant.com |
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On 02/24/2018 03:11 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2018-02-24 03:07:28 +0100, Tomas Vondra wrote:
>> I agree having to restart the whole operation after a crash is not
>> ideal, but I don't see how adding a flag actually solves it. The problem
>> is the large databases often store most of the data (>80%) in one or two
>> central tables (think fact tables in star schema, etc.). So if you
>> crash, it's likely half-way while processing this table, so the whole
>> table would still have relchecksums=false and would have to be processed
>> from scratch.
>
> I don't think it's quite as large a problem as you make it out to
> be. Even in those cases you'll usually have indexes, toast tables and so
> forth.
>
Hmmm, right. I've been focused on tables and kinda forgot that the other
objects need to be transformed too ... :-/
>> But perhaps you meant something like "position" instead of just a simple
>> true/false flag?
>
> I think that'd incur a much larger complexity cost.
>
Yep, that was part of the point that I was getting to - that actually
addressing the issue would be more expensive than simple flags. But as
you pointed out, that was not quite ... well thought through.
regards
--
Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
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