Re: IDLE in transaction introspection

From: Scott Mead <scottm(at)openscg(dot)com>
To: Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net>
Cc: Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: IDLE in transaction introspection
Date: 2011-11-16 21:09:54
Message-ID: CAKq0gvJzpEa45jFO_QXpBQjeBOfmmkbvBBaqJC09YF+YSzcgCg@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> > On 11/15/2011 09:44 AM, Scott Mead wrote:
> >>
> >> Fell off the map last week, here's v2 that:
> >> * RUNNING => active
> >> * all states from CAPS to lower case
> >>
> >
> > This looks like what I was hoping someone would add here now. Patch
> looks
> > good, only issue I noticed was a spaces instead of a tab goof where you
> set
> > beentry_>st_state at line 2419 in src/backend/postmaster/pgstat.c
> >
> > Missing pieces:
> >
> > -There is one regression test that uses pg_stat_activity that is broken
> now.
> > -The documentation should list the new field and all of the states it
> might
> > include. That's a serious doc update from the minimal info available
> right
> > now.
> >
> > I know this issue has been beat up already some, but let me summarize and
> > extend that thinking a moment. I see two equally valid schools of
> thought
> > on how exactly to deal with introducing this change:
> >
> > -Add the new state field just as you've done it, but keep updating the
> query
> > text anyway. Do not rename current_query. Declare the overloading of
> > current_query as both a state and the query text to be deprecated in 9.3.
> > This would keep existing tools working fine against 9.2 and give a clean
> > transition period.
> >
> > -Forget about backward compatibility and just put all the breaking stuff
> > we've been meaning to do in here. If we're going to rename
> current_query to
> > query--what Scott's patch does here--that will force all code using
> > pg_stat_activity to be rewritten. This seems like the perfect time to
> also
> > change "procpid" to "pid", finally blow away that wart.
> >
>
> +1
>
+1 for me as well.

Anybody else?

>
> > I'll happily update all of the tools and samples I deal with to support
> this
> > change. Most of the ones I can think of will be simplified; they're
> already
> > parsing query_text and extracting the implicit state. Just operating on
> an
> > explicit one instead will be simpler and more robust.
> >
>
> lmk if you need help, we'll be doing this with some of our tools /
> projects anyway, it probably wouldn't hurt to coordinate.
>
>
> Robert Treat
> conjecture: xzilla.net
> consulting: omniti.com
>
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