Re: Freezing without write I/O

From: didier <did447(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Ants Aasma <ants(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Freezing without write I/O
Date: 2013-09-20 16:41:15
Message-ID: CAJRYxuL8RMmFs7H6+bA64tH-1_zUGJCwgYjcZEHM-rmmsgustg@mail.gmail.com
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Hi,

IMO it's a bug if S_UNLOCK is a not a compiler barrier.

Moreover for volatile remember:
https://www.securecoding.cert.org/confluence/display/seccode/DCL17-C.+Beware+of+miscompiled+volatile-qualified+variables

Who is double checking compiler output? :)

regards
Didier

On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>wrote:

> On 2013-09-20 16:47:24 +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
> > I think we should go through the various implementations and make sure
> > they are actual compiler barriers and then change the documented policy.
>
> From a quick look
> * S_UNLOCK for PPC isn't a compiler barrier
> * S_UNLOCK for MIPS isn't a compiler barrier
> * I don't know enough about unixware (do we still support that as a
> platform even) to judge
> * True64 Alpha I have no clue about
> * PA-RISCs tas() might not be a compiler barrier for !GCC
> * PA-RISCs S_UNLOCK might not be a compiler barrier
> * HP-UX !GCC might not
> * IRIX 5 seems to be a compiler barrier
> * SINIX - I don't care
> * AIX PPC - compiler barrier
> * Sun - TAS is implemented in external assembly, normal function call,
> compiler barrier
> * Win(32|64) - compiler barrier
> * Generic S_UNLOCK *NOT* necessarily a compiler barrier.
>
> Ok, so I might have been a bit too optimistic...
>
> Greetings,
>
> Andres Freund
>
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