Re: proposal: ANSI SQL 2011 syntax for named parameters

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: proposal: ANSI SQL 2011 syntax for named parameters
Date: 2013-02-04 20:32:58
Message-ID: CA+U5nMLWB0u=FF7nhOdSy_W8qdTYGqkJR0zoRjHTdq=sxOBLHA@mail.gmail.com
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On 4 February 2013 19:53, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> This seems pretty close to an accusation of bad faith, which I don't
> believe to be present.

Robert, this is not an accusation of bad faith, just an observation
that we can move forwards more quickly.

I understand completely why you wish to make slow changes, I just
don't believe it is warranted in this case. I'm not sure how or why
that becomes some kind of accusation against you personally.

In this case, and others, moving forwards quickly can be achieved at
the same time as backwards compatibility with some thought and
documentation.

> I find your attitude toward backward compatibility to be astonishingly
> inconsistent. We haven't made any progress on overhauling
> recovery.conf in two years because you've steadfastly stonewalled any
> forward progress on backwards-compatibility grounds, even though a
> change there can't possible break any working PostgreSQL
> *application*, only the admin tools.

I stonewalled nothing; what exactly do you think I hoped to gain by
such actions? In fact, I repeatedly encouraged change and showed how
we could have both backwards compatibility and progress. Any lack of
progress is not a result of my request for backwards compatibility,
made in the interests of avoiding data loss and very broken
applications.

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Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services

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