Re: group locking: incomplete patch, just for discussion

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: group locking: incomplete patch, just for discussion
Date: 2014-11-01 05:01:43
Message-ID: CA+U5nMLLN=UUWBqtQ2PjB7qvwPaKxvujfD9+6x0Rev5FLtXKUg@mail.gmail.com
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On 31 October 2014 19:36, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

>> It's an obscure case and its not the only solution either.
>
> I don't think that's an obscure situation at all. Do you really think
> a patch that could cause an attempt to VACUUM FULL a system catalog to
> suffer an undetected deadlock meets this community's quality
> standards? Because that's what we're talking about.

Nobody has said that allowing undetected deadlocks is acceptable, so
your other comments are void.

I've suggested *stricter* locking, which would obviously allow
deadlock detection. You recognised that by claiming that the locking I
had proposed was actually too strict, which is where the above example
came from.

Yes, I have proposed stricter locking, but as explained, the only
things this would slow down are catalog VAC FULLs, which are already a
problem.

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Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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