Re: Checkpointer on hot standby runs without looking checkpoint_segments

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi(dot)kyotaro(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com, masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com
Subject: Re: Checkpointer on hot standby runs without looking checkpoint_segments
Date: 2012-06-08 14:39:31
Message-ID: CA+U5nMKUraJRUqbuoAA56+JOD37bh1CN0khjW2CK0x_xgO=W1w@mail.gmail.com
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On 8 June 2012 15:21, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> On 8 June 2012 14:47, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>>> ISTM that we should avoid triggering a checkpoint on the master if
>>>> checkpoint_segments is less than wal_keep_segments. Such checkpoints
>>>> serve no purpose because we don't actually limit and recycle the WAL
>>>> files and all it does is slow people down.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, I emphatically disagree with this, for the same
>>> reasons as on the other thread.  Getting data down to disk provides a
>>> greater measure of safety than having it in memory.  Making
>>> checkpoint_segments not force a checkpoint is no better than making
>>> checkpoint_timeout not force a checkpoint.
>>
>> Not sure which bit you are disagreeing with. I have no suggested
>> change to checkpoint_timeout.
>
> You already made it not a hard timeout.  We have another nearby thread
> discussing why I don't like that.
>
>> What I'm saying is that forcing a checkpoint to save space, when we
>> aren't going to save space, makes no sense.
>
> We are also forcing a checkpoint to limit recovery time and data loss
> potential, not just to save space.

Nothing I've said on this thread is related to the other thread.
Please don't confuse matters.

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