Re: Proof of concept: auto updatable views [Review of Patch]

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Dean Rasheed <dean(dot)a(dot)rasheed(at)gmail(dot)com>, Thom Brown <thom(at)linux(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Amit kapila <amit(dot)kapila(at)huawei(dot)com>, "robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com" <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Proof of concept: auto updatable views [Review of Patch]
Date: 2012-12-09 22:41:29
Message-ID: CA+U5nMKPOfiawG+C5OSbJKGQEDPATrYSuXqPogRJM-wrWCvu6w@mail.gmail.com
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On 9 December 2012 22:00, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Dean Rasheed <dean(dot)a(dot)rasheed(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>> It's a shame though that pg_view_is_updatable() and
>> pg_view_is_insertable() are not really useful for identifying
>> potentially updatable views (e.g., consider an auto-updatable view on
>> top of a trigger-updatable view). I'm left wondering if I
>> misinterpreted the SQL standard's intentions when separating out the
>> concepts of "updatable" and "trigger updatable". It seems like it
>> would have been more useful to have "trigger updatable" imply
>> "updatable".
>
> I wondered about that too, but concluded that they were separate after
> noticing that the standard frequently writes things like "updatable or
> trigger updatable". They wouldn't need to write that if the latter
> implied the former.
>
> But in any case, those functions are expensive enough that I can't see
> running them against every view in the DB anytime somebody hits tab.
> I think just allowing tab-completion to include all views is probably
> the best compromise.

I'm surprised to see that "updateable" and "trigger updateable" states
aren't recorded in the catalog somewhere. ISTM a useful thing to be
able to know about a view and not something we should be calculating
on the fly. That has nothing much to do with tab completion, it just
seems like a generally useful thing.

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Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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