From: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Scaling XLog insertion (was Re: Moving more work outside WALInsertLock) |
Date: | 2012-03-07 15:17:10 |
Message-ID: | CA+U5nM+ivhd0RROU1jkxZp3Nj4YNdYybj=yQmXPh99t7+Vn4_w@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com> writes:
>> Just to keep things in perspective -- For a commit record to reach one
>> megabyte, it would have to be a transaction that drops over 43k tables.
>> Or have 64k smgr inval messages (for example, a TRUNCATE might send half
>> a dozen of these messages). Or have 262k subtransactions. Or
>> combinations thereof.
>
>> Now admittedly, a page is only 8 kB, so for a commit record to be "many
>> pages long" (that is, >=3) it would require about 1500 smgr inval
>> messages, or, say, about 250 TRUNCATEs (of permanent tables with at
>> least one toastable field and at least one index).
>
> What about the locks (if running hot-standby)?
It's a list of active AccessExclusiveLocks. If that list is long you
can be sure not much else is happening on the server.
>> So they are undoubtely rare. Not sure if as rare as Higgs bosons.
>
> Even if they're rare, having a major performance hiccup when one happens
> is not a side-effect I want to see from a patch whose only reason to
> exist is better performance.
I agree the effect you point out can exist, I just don't want to slow
down the main case as a result.
--
Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services
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