Re: CF3+4 (was Re: Parallel query execution)

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Phil Sorber <phil(at)omniti(dot)com>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Pavan Deolasee <pavan(dot)deolasee(at)gmail(dot)com>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri(at)2ndquadrant(dot)fr>, Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: CF3+4 (was Re: Parallel query execution)
Date: 2013-01-23 20:31:00
Message-ID: CA+TgmobV4um8-Argx4ZYdioGkAZka682-chAz9vG4Hw2cuqf2w@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Phil Sorber <phil(at)omniti(dot)com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> wrote:
>> * Robert Haas (robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com) wrote:
>>> For all of that, I'm not sure that people failing to seek consensus
>>> before coding is really so much of a problem as you seem to think.
>>
>> For my part, I don't think the lack of consensus-finding before
>> submitting patches is, in itself, a problem.
>>
>> The problem, imv, is that everyone is expecting that once they've
>> written a patch and put it on a commitfest that it's going to get
>> committed- and it seems like committers are feeling under pressure
>> that, because something's on the CF app, it needs to be committed
>> in some form.
>>
>
> FWIW, I have NO delusions that something I propose or submit or put in
> a CF is necessarily going to get committed. For me it's not committed
> until I can see it in 'git log' and even then, I've seen stuff get
> reverted. I would hope that if a committer isn't comfortable with a
> patch they would explain why, and decline to commit. Then it's up to
> the submitter as to whether or not they want to make changes, try to
> explain why they are right and the committer is wrong, or withdraw the
> patch.

I think that's the right attitude, but it doesn't always work out that
way. Reviewers and committers sometimes spend a lot of time writing a
review and then get flamed for their honest opinion about the
readiness of a patch. Of course, reviewers and committers can be
jerks, too. As far as I know, we're all human, here.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

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