Re: Cross-backend signals and administration (Was: Re: pg_terminate_backend for same-role)

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Cc: Daniel Farina <daniel(at)heroku(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Cross-backend signals and administration (Was: Re: pg_terminate_backend for same-role)
Date: 2012-03-27 17:47:29
Message-ID: CA+Tgmoa=0Q93AU0MfQfm55P6q2L8NUKyPJFtzJc10Vnn0-=NAQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Alvaro Herrera
<alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com> wrote:
> Excerpts from Robert Haas's message of mar mar 27 14:38:47 -0300 2012:
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Daniel Farina <daniel(at)heroku(dot)com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> >> I think the more important question is a policy question: do we want
>> >> it to work like this?  It seems like a policy question that ought to
>> >> be left to the DBA, but we have no policy management framework for
>> >> DBAs to configure what they do or do not wish to allow.  Still, if
>> >> we've decided it's OK to allow cancelling, I don't see any real reason
>> >> why this should be treated differently.
>> >
>> > Is there a hypothetical DBA that doesn't want a mere-mortal user to be
>> > able to signal one of their own backends to do "cancel query, rollback
>> > the transaction, then close the socket"?  If so, why?
>>
>> Well, I guess if you have different people sharing the same user-ID,
>> you probably wouldn't want that.
>>
>> But maybe that's not an important case.
>
> Isn't it the case that many web applications run under some common
> database user regardless of the underlying webapp user?

Yes.

> I wouldn't say
> that's an unimportant case.  Granted, the webapp user wouldn't have
> permission to run arbitrary queries in the first place.

Right. That's why I'm thinking maybe it doesn't matter.

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Robert Haas
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