Re: Remaining beta blockers

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Remaining beta blockers
Date: 2013-04-28 11:36:43
Message-ID: CA+TgmoYzX-LtQug38tGPXSj6dLQYtQzQikLJoxBuVKj=eQMi0w@mail.gmail.com
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On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>>> Um, wait, it's *not* in pg_class now, and what I was about to do was
>>> go put it there. Is there a typo in the above para, or are you saying
>>> you don't like either approach? If the latter, what concept have you
>>> got for an eventual implementation?
>
>> If we're going to have it at all, I'd like to make it a flag in the
>> page header on page 0, or maybe have a dedicated metapage that stores
>> that detail, and perhaps other things.
>
> I cannot say that I find that idea attractive; the biggest problem with
> it being that updating such a state flag will be nontransactional,
> unless we go to a lot of effort to support rollbacks. ISTM that the
> scannability property is a perfectly normal relation property and as
> such *ought* to be in the pg_class row, or at worst some other catalog
> entry. Why do you think differently?

Mostly because of the issue with unlogged tables, I suppose. If
you've got a reasonable idea how to do catalog updates on restart,
though, I could probably be convinced to yield to that.

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Robert Haas
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The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

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