Re: pg_migrator and an 8.3-compatible tsvector data type

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Greg Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Oleg Bartunov <oleg(at)sai(dot)msu(dot)su>, Teodor Sigaev <teodor(at)sigaev(dot)ru>
Subject: Re: pg_migrator and an 8.3-compatible tsvector data type
Date: 2009-06-01 15:39:15
Message-ID: 603c8f070906010839l3e99d46aofda959685a10407c@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Greg Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> writes:
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>> We really need to figure out an approach that lets us keep the old
>>> datatypes around under a different name while making the original name
>>> be the new version of the datatype.  That way people can migrate and
>>> be up, and deal with the need to rewrite their tables at a later time.
>
>> I do agree that having to rewrite the whole table isn't really
>> "upgrade-in-place".
>
> It's certainly the case that there is a lot more work to do before
> pg_migrator could support everything that we reasonably want to be
> able to do in a version update.  As I see it, the reason it's getting
> revived now is that 8.3->8.4 happens to be an update where most of what
> it can't (yet) do isn't necessary.  That means we can get it out there,
> get the bugs out of the functionality it does have, and most importantly
> try to set an expectation that future updates will also have some degree
> of update-in-place capability.  If we wait till it's perfect then
> nothing will ever happen at all in this space.

I agree. I remain doubtful that dumping and reloading the schema is
the best way to go, but it's certainly a worthwhile experiment,
because (a) I might easily be wrong and (b) we'll hopefully learn some
things that will be useful going forward.

...Robert

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