Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core?

From: cowwoc <cowwoc(at)bbs(dot)darktech(dot)org>
To: Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
Cc: Bill Moran <wmoran(at)potentialtech(dot)com>, "pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org >> PG-General Mailing List" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core?
Date: 2014-09-17 21:27:38
Message-ID: 5419FCCA.6080002@bbs.darktech.org
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On 17/09/2014 5:05 PM, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> 2014-09-17 22:54 GMT+02:00 Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net
> <mailto:peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>>:
>
> On 9/15/14 1:46 PM, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> > I am strong sceptic. There is relative slow progress in JDBC driver,
> > that is 100x more important project than PL/Java - so It is hard to
> > believe, so there can be 3 developers, who start work on PL/Java.
>
> Stupid, completely offensive guess: Most Java programmers work in
> "enterprise" environments and are not allowed to or used to
> contributing
> to open source?
>
>
> So what can be changed?

I don't think this is the case. There are tons of active open-source
Java projects (more than C/C++).

Having worked on a project that with both C and Java bits, I think the
major hurdle to overcome is the build and deployment system. Over the
past couple of years, the dominant Java build/deployment system has
become Maven. Maven does a terrible job of handling non-Java code. When
I say terrible, I mean terrrrrible! It was so bad that I eventually gave
up and dropped the project altogether.

Here is the problem description: http://stackoverflow.com/q/4171222/14731
And as you can see, the Maven authors closed the bug report as Won't Fix
(at which point I finally gave up)

If you can get over that hurdle, you should be able to get contributors
by the dozens. I recommend using a mix of CMake and Apache Ant to build
and only using Maven at the end to deploy.

Gili

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