Re: Proposal to add a QNX 6.5 port to PostgreSQL

From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: "Baker, Keith [OCDUS Non-J&J]" <KBaker9(at)its(dot)jnj(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Proposal to add a QNX 6.5 port to PostgreSQL
Date: 2014-08-05 00:15:31
Message-ID: 53E02223.7080605@agliodbs.com
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On 08/04/2014 07:54 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
> 1. Most seriously, once the postmaster is gone, there's nobody to
> SIGQUIT remaining backends if somebody exits uncleanly. This means
> that a backend running without a postmaster could be running in a
> corrupt shared memory segment, which could lead to all sorts of
> misbehavior, including possible data corruption.

I've seen this in the field.

> 2. Operationally, orphaned backends prevent the system from being
> restarted. There's no easy, automatic way to kill them, so scripts
> that automatically restart the database server if it exits don't work.

I've also seen this in the field.

> Now, I don't say that any of this is a reason not to have a strong
> shared memory interlock, but I'm quite unconvinced that the current
> behavior should even be optional, let alone the default.

I always assumed that the current behavior existed because we *couldn't*
fix it, not because anybody wanted it.

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Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com

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