Re: Standalone synchronous master

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Florian Pflug <fgp(at)phlo(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, MauMau <maumau307(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)ymail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Rajeev rastogi <rajeev(dot)rastogi(at)huawei(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Standalone synchronous master
Date: 2014-01-13 18:21:47
Message-ID: 52D42EBB.1020103@commandprompt.com
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On 01/13/2014 10:12 AM, Hannu Krosing wrote:
>>> In other words, if we're going to have auto-degrade, the most
>>> intelligent place for it is in
>>> RepMgr/HandyRep/OmniPITR/pgPoolII/whatever. It's also the *easiest*
>>> place. Anything we do *inside* Postgres is going to have a really,
>>> really hard time determining when to degrade.
>> +1
>>
>> This is also how 2PC works, btw - the database provides the building
>> blocks, i.e. PREPARE and COMMIT, and leaves it to a transaction manager
>> to deal with issues that require a whole-cluster perspective.
>>
>
> ++1

+1

>
> I like Simons idea to have a pg_xxx function for switching between
> replication modes, which should be enough to support a monitor
> daemon doing the switching.
>
> Maybe we could have an 'syncrep_taking_too_long_command' GUC
> which could be used to alert such a monitoring daemon, so it can
> immediately check weather to
>

I would think that would be a column in pg_stat_replication. Basically
last_ack or something like that.

> a) switch master to async rep or standalone mode (in case of sync slave
> becoming unavailable)

Yep.

>
> or
>
> b) to failover to slave (in almost equally likely case that it was the
> master
> which became disconnected from the world and slave is available)
>
> or

I think this should be left to external tools.

JD

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