Re: [RFC] Shouldn't we remove annoying FATAL messages from server log?

From: Jim Nasby <jim(at)nasby(dot)net>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, MauMau <maumau307(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Shouldn't we remove annoying FATAL messages from server log?
Date: 2013-12-09 23:29:04
Message-ID: 52A65240.3020608@nasby.net
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On 12/6/13 7:38 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2013-12-06 22:35:21 +0900, MauMau wrote:
>> From: "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
>>> No. They are FATAL so far as the individual session is concerned.
>>> Possibly some documentation effort is needed here, but I don't think
>>> any change in the code behavior would be an improvement.
>>
>> You are suggesting that we should add a note like "Don't worry about the
>> following message. This is a result of normal connectivity checking", don't
>> you?
>>
>> FATAL: the database system is starting up
>
> Uh. An explanation why you cannot connect to the database hardly seems
> like a superflous log message.

It is when *you* are not actually trying to connect but rather pg_ctl is (which is one of the use cases here).

Arguably 1-3 are inaccurate since they're not really about a backend dying... they occur during the startup phase; you never even get a functioning backend. That's a marked difference from other uses of FATAL.
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Jim C. Nasby, Data Architect jim(at)nasby(dot)net
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