Re: Prepared Statements

From: Dmitry Tkach <dmitry(at)openratings(dot)com>
To: Csaba Nagy <nagy(at)ecircle-ag(dot)com>
Cc: Oliver Jowett <oliver(at)opencloud(dot)com>, pgsql-jdbc-list <pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Prepared Statements
Date: 2003-07-21 15:14:29
Message-ID: 3F1C0355.6090709@openratings.com
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>But please... did you ever use a different database than Postgres ? The
>way you're passing the parameters is VERY much postgres specific,
>furthermore, it relies on some non-standard behavior...
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Yes. That's what I meant below - 'the lesser of two evils'

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>>I am just choosing the lesser of two evils.
>>At least, I don't need to know what database I am going to be working
>>with when I compile the code.
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>... which problem you wouldn't have if you would use standard JDBC code.
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True. I would not have this problem then. I would have another problem -
just no way to pass a set or array in whatsoever.... :-)
I know a better way to not have problems - if I just didn't do anything
at all, I would not have any. :-)

>I agree that standards suck sometime, but then if you want to use a DB
>specific feature, I can't see why not make it a compile time necessity -
>it might be a further benefit to remind you that your code will not work
>with other databases.
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I explained the reason for not making it a 'compile time necessity'
earlier - there is no way whatsoever I can have all possible jdbc
drivers in the world available to me at compile time.

>But yes you force your customers to use Postgres, or maybe to a set of
>databases which accept this hack - it is not standard.
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I don't force them to use Postgres.
I do have the driver-specific logic that uses the correct way to pass in
the parameters depending on the driver.
The difference is that this is *run-time* logic, not *compilation-time*.

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>>With your suggestion, the only way I can have the above is to pack all
>>the possible jdbc drivers into every build of the app...
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>Yes, all the drivers which you are using special features from. That
>makes perfect sense - those are vendor specific dependencies in your
>code, the library will remind you about it all the time so you don't
>forget to tell the customers about it ;-)
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It doesn't matter really if it makes sense or not (to me, it doesn't
anyway).
It is just not possible to do. I simply do not have all the drivers in
the world available to me.
Even if I did, I can't begin to imagine what my customers would tell
when they finish laughing after receiving an app from me, with all the
possible drivers built in :-)

As for not forgetting to tell the customers about it - that's the whole
idea - I am *not* telling the customers about it, they don't want to
know that, and don't need to care.

Dima

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