Re: Command Triggers, patch v11

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Thom Brown <thom(at)linux(dot)com>, Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri(at)2ndquadrant(dot)fr>
Subject: Re: Command Triggers, patch v11
Date: 2012-03-19 01:16:26
Message-ID: 24506.1332119786@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> writes:
> On lr, 2012-03-17 at 18:04 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> I'm not sure what we should do instead. We have gotten push-back before
>> anytime we changed the command tag for an existing command (and in fact
>> it seems that we intentionally added the rowcount display in 9.0, which
>> means there are people out there who care about that functionality).
>> On the other hand, the traditional output for CREATE TABLE AS doesn't
>> seem to satisfy the principle of least astonishment. A third
>> consideration is that if we are pushing CREATE TABLE AS as the preferred
>> spelling, people will probably complain if it omits functionality that
>> SELECT INTO provides; so I'm not sure that "SELECT n" in one case and
>> "CREATE TABLE AS" in the other would be a good idea either. Any
>> opinions what to do here?

> Another consideration is that the SQL command tags are defined by the
> SQL standard. So if we were to change it, then it should be "CREATE
> TABLE". I'm not convinced that it should be changed, though. (I recall
> cross-checking our list against the SQL standard in the past, so there
> might have been discussion on this already.)

If we were going to change the output at all, I would vote for "CREATE
TABLE nnnn" so as to preserve the rowcount functionality. Keep in mind
though that this would force client-side changes, for instance in
libpq's PQcmdTuples(). Fixing that one routine isn't so painful, but
what of other client-side libraries, not to mention applications?

regards, tom lane

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