Re: [RFC: bug fix?] Connection attempt block forever when the synchronous standby is not running

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: MauMau <maumau307(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [RFC: bug fix?] Connection attempt block forever when the synchronous standby is not running
Date: 2014-07-07 16:06:14
Message-ID: 24441.1404749174@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> On 2014-07-07 09:57:20 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Well, see the comment that explains why the logic is like this now:

> I think we should 'simply' make sequences assign a toplevel xid - then
> we can get rid of that special case in RecordTransactionCommit(). And I
> think the performance benefit of not having to wait on XLogFlush() for
> readonly xacts due to hot prunes far outweighs the decrease due to the
> xid assignment/commit record. I don't think that nextval()s are called
> overly much without a later xid assigning statement.

Yeah, that could well be true. I'm not sure if there are any other cases
where we have non-xid-assigning operations that are considered part of
what has to be flushed before reporting commit; if there are not, I'd
be okay with changing nextval() this way.

>> I think a more useful line of thought would be to see if we can't complain
>> more loudly when we have no synchronous standby. Perhaps a "WARNING:
>> waiting forever for lack of a synchronous standby" could be emitted when
>> a transaction starts to wait.

> In the OP's case the session wasn't even started - so proper feedback
> isn't that easy...

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think a WARNING emitted here would be seen in
psql even though we're still in InitPostgres. If it isn't, we have a
problem there anyhow, IMO.

> We could special case that by forcing s_c=off until the session started properly.

Ugh.

regards, tom lane

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